Lebron James! GOAT!
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Lebron James! GOAT!
He is a man!! Pure and simple. I wish we had guys at Collingwood with that determination to win no matter what!
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Woods Of Ypres
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that's like saying without Steve Kerr's game winning shot for the Bulls, Michael Jordan wouldn't have one.Benno wrote:LBJ, whilst great, isn't G.O.A.T.
If it wasn't for Kyrie being clutch though....
Kyrie was terrific. Arguably the best handle in the game right now and what he can do on the drive is other worldly.
Lebron James is on another planet.
Defense, passing, scoring in the post, his jump shot, his attack on the basket, his one percent'ers. He is simply the best.
GOAT is a hard thing to agree on. he is my pick for GOAT! Michael is second. Michael never faced a team like the Warriors. he was never 3-1 down. he never played in 6 NBA finals in a row - moving to the worst team in the league and taking them to that finals in his first year!!!!!
Oscar Robinson, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan all rolled into 265 pounds of Athletic supremacy!!!!!
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That's because he was the GOAT. GOAT don't get 3-1 down, that's why they are regarded as GOAT. Lebron is on the next tier down, shared with Magic, Bird et alE wrote:Benno wrote:GOAT is a hard thing to agree on. he is my pick for GOAT! Michael is second. Michael never faced a team like the Warriors. he was never 3-1 down.
I think the result says less about Lebron and more about Curry and his standing.
Get back on top.
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i might have agreed with you three years ago. Now it is definitely in the "we can agree to disagree" stage. michael won nothing without Scottie Pippen. LeBron could get the 76'ers to the finals if he joined them next year and they are the worst team in the NBA in the past 20 years.Al Swearengen wrote:Yep, and not even close.Jezza wrote:Jordan is the GOAT.
Bird and Magic Johnson are also ahead of LeBron.
I don't think Jordan in his prime scores in a game of one on one with Lebron. Simple. That's enough for me.
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with respect, that opinion is about three years old. You need a new narrative after what LeBron has achieved with an inferior team. who did Jordan even beat??? He didnt have a rival in the era. His team mate might have been the second best player in the NBA at the time.Cam wrote:E wrote:That's because he was the GOAT. GOAT don't get 3-1 down, that's why they are regarded as GOAT. Lebron is on the next tier down, shared with Magic, Bird et alBenno wrote:GOAT is a hard thing to agree on. he is my pick for GOAT! Michael is second. Michael never faced a team like the Warriors. he was never 3-1 down.
I think the result says less about Lebron and more about Curry and his standing.
LeBron just beat a team that was even more successful than any of MJ's teams.
dont get me wrong, i love MJ. LeBron is just better all around.
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Re: LEBRON JAMES!!!!! GOAT!
its 4 out of 7 dude so you were wrong right out of the gate.
Listing the starting 5 of each team doesnt make them great. None of those teams went 73-9 and possessed that years' UNANIMOUS MVP (Curry), the three point shooting champ (Thompson), an All-star (Green), an Olympian and reigning playoff MVP (Iguodala), multiple number 1 and top 10 draft picks, Bogut and Barnes, and a host of talented subs who were starting 5 calibere players on ANY other team - Shaun Livingston, Barbosa, Festis Aleli, Mo Speights!!! I mean that team is ridiculous.
We can agree to disagree. Michael Jordan was my absolute idol growing up. He is not the basketball pplayer that LeBron James has become.
As for his efforts in the finals this year, they pale by comparison to his efforts last year (a performance that by your opening remarks, you somehow consider a slight on James). Afterall, Dellevedova, who isnt good enough a player to even get minutes in this years playoff's was the second best player on LeBrons team last year. Mozgov, who also couldnt get minutes on the court this year was second highest scorer behind LeBron.
Finally, Jordan never won anything without Scottie Pippen and most of his six championship teams were stacked with talent much as GSW are (and had the GOAT coach in his prime). You make a silly point that he never lost in the finals, but what that fails to acknowledge (even though you point out later without even realizing it), the best teams of MJs generation were actually in the east. So while Michael lost plenty of playoff series (including multiple times against the Pistons), they occurred earlier in the playoffs than the finals. LeBron has played his entire career against the West so when he faced the equivalent of the Pistons, it was in the finals rather than ion the ECF. NOt sure that this proves MJ was more clutch because he was a loser earlier.
NO way MJ takes Lebron's first team to the Finals. NO way MJ takes Cleveland of last year to the finals. He always had a healthyt Scottie Pippen and a great team behind him. Well that's all we remember because before Scottie Pippen became a first team All world player, MJ did nothing but lose.
Listing the starting 5 of each team doesnt make them great. None of those teams went 73-9 and possessed that years' UNANIMOUS MVP (Curry), the three point shooting champ (Thompson), an All-star (Green), an Olympian and reigning playoff MVP (Iguodala), multiple number 1 and top 10 draft picks, Bogut and Barnes, and a host of talented subs who were starting 5 calibere players on ANY other team - Shaun Livingston, Barbosa, Festis Aleli, Mo Speights!!! I mean that team is ridiculous.
We can agree to disagree. Michael Jordan was my absolute idol growing up. He is not the basketball pplayer that LeBron James has become.
As for his efforts in the finals this year, they pale by comparison to his efforts last year (a performance that by your opening remarks, you somehow consider a slight on James). Afterall, Dellevedova, who isnt good enough a player to even get minutes in this years playoff's was the second best player on LeBrons team last year. Mozgov, who also couldnt get minutes on the court this year was second highest scorer behind LeBron.
Finally, Jordan never won anything without Scottie Pippen and most of his six championship teams were stacked with talent much as GSW are (and had the GOAT coach in his prime). You make a silly point that he never lost in the finals, but what that fails to acknowledge (even though you point out later without even realizing it), the best teams of MJs generation were actually in the east. So while Michael lost plenty of playoff series (including multiple times against the Pistons), they occurred earlier in the playoffs than the finals. LeBron has played his entire career against the West so when he faced the equivalent of the Pistons, it was in the finals rather than ion the ECF. NOt sure that this proves MJ was more clutch because he was a loser earlier.
NO way MJ takes Lebron's first team to the Finals. NO way MJ takes Cleveland of last year to the finals. He always had a healthyt Scottie Pippen and a great team behind him. Well that's all we remember because before Scottie Pippen became a first team All world player, MJ did nothing but lose.