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Israel may not be able to "obliterate" Hezbollah, but they're making a mess of their leadership. Another senior leader and team killed.
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During Netanyahu's speech at the UN, he outlined the perspective of US imperialism and its proxy Israel to reorganise the Middle east.
He held up a map, which he called the "Blessing". It showed the countries Israel, Saudia Arabia, Egypt, Sudan, Jordan all coloured green as partners in a kind of co-prosperity sphere. Gaza and West Bank were included within Israel on this map. His words were:
“This is the map I presented here last year. It’s a map of a blessing. It shows Israel and its Arab partners forming a land bridge connecting Asia and Europe.”

Here is a link to this image:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pf93eel1 ... b51m2&dl=0

He then held up a map which had the countries: Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Iran coloured in black and the heading on the map was "curse."
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hyvceqbe ... h6ya6&dl=0

His words were:
“Now look at this second map. It’s a map of a curse. It’s a map of an arc of terror that Iran has created and imposed from the Indian Ocean to the Mediterranean. Israel is committed to removing the curse.”
“With American support and leadership, I believe this vision can materialize much sooner than people think.”

He is announcing to the world how the US and Israel, as its totally dependent proxy and rampaging attack dog, are embarking on the reorganisation of the MIddle East. Their aim is the "removal of the curse"

After he had delivered this monstrous speech that Hitler would have envied, he ordered from a landline in New York the assassination of Nasrallah, using laser guided bunker busters manufactured in the US.

Biden was quick to express his support for this political assassination.

US imperialism is now on the warpath, its immediate aim in the Middle East to reimpose colonial subjugation of Lebanon, Iraq, Syria and Iran, with the assistance of its fascist lackeys in the Israel government.

It is important to note that the US already has 40 000 troops stationed at various bases throughout the Middle East, and will soon have two aircraft carriers off the coast, able to strike anywhere in the "cursed crescent".
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In regard to my previous post about Israel "obliterating Hezbollah", Israel may or may not succeed. However, imperialism is not based on rational calculations as to whether or not they are likely to succeed in destroying their immediate targets.

US capitalism really is facing down bankruptcy. It would only take the financial markets to blink at the unprecedented size of the US debt for a massive run toward gold as a safe haven and out of US bonds. The US Is is caught in a hopeless death spiral. It must continue to convince investors that it is good for a historically gigantic debt, even while it is spending billions on two war fronts, in Ukraine and in Gaza/Lebanon.

In Ukraine, Russia is appearing to be approaching a breakthrough in the Donbass, and the Ukrainian army has been bled white. If, after all the massive military packages that the US has sent to Zelensky, the military position of his government collapses, the US administration is terrified of a run on the dollar.

The US has lost its economic supremacy, and therefore increasingly its ability to influence other countries diplomatically. It has therefore turned to its one remaining trump card : military power.

Therefore, the US administration (whether you consider it to be that of Biden or Harris) is not driven by such judgements of whether Israel can successfully eliminate Hamas or Hezbollah. It is driven only by one imperative: to reorganise the world in its own interests, and it will try to destroy any obstacle that gets in its path.

I hope this makes my position clearer on whether or not the US/Israel will succed in destroying Hamas/Hezbollah.

In the meantime, what is certain, is that whatever the ultimate fate of Hamas and Hezbollah, hundreds of thousands if not millions of innocent civilians in the Middle East (including those in Israel) are now in danger of barbaric violence on a scale not seen since World War 2.
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David wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:02 pm
What Israel's government would undoubtedly like to do, and might yet succeed in, is expand the war to Iran and draw the US and other countries into a violent and destructive regional conflict. But I don't see that as being a walk in the park for them, and, whoever emerges victorious (if anyone), no doubt there'll be a lot of carnage visited upon ordinary people in Israel and Iran along the way, as well as other countries caught in the middle.

Nobody should want that – and much as I'd in theory like Iranian theocracy as well as the Israeli apartheid state to fall, it's not a trade-off any sane person should accept.
As I am sure will play out in the hours and days to come, what a "sane person" should accept is absolutely irrelevant in terms of what imperialism is now going to inflict on massive civilian populations.

Do you think any "sane person" should accept the criminal genocide in Gaza?

Of course not, and millions world wide in massive, sustained protests have expressed their outrage.

Yet where are we?

Israel continues and expands its genocidal violence, with US support.

Today in the media, we hear both Dutton and Albanese threatening more attacks on the democratic rights to protest against this genocide. Throughout the world, capitalist governments are moving to outlaw anti-genocide opposition.

Imperialism is insanity, and it can only be opposed with a genuine, anti-capitalist perspective.
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