#22 Steele Sidebottom
Moderator: bbmods
-
- Posts: 248
- Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:49 pm
- Pebbles Rocks
- Posts: 1241
- Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:54 pm
- Location: Collingwood
Yep, ‘cause if they could play solid footy week in week out, who knows, maybe Collingwood could, you know, be in the top couple of teams on the ladder.Millane42 wrote:He and other senior players stood up finally - good to see. Crisp had a blinder but Pendles and sidey were terrific. It’s just so strange why they can’t do this week in week out
Sidebottom IS elite. A star. A genius. Very valuable. We cant win a flag without him. ELITE!!!!WarrenerraW wrote:Keeps getting labelled as 'elite' but I don't see why. Yes, he does do some flukey stuff and can kick a goal but coughs the ball up time and time again with high up and under helicopter kicks. One of many who needs a kick up the arse.
- Rd10.1998_11.1#36
- Posts: 2539
- Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:04 pm
- Location: Sevilla, Spain
- Has liked: 12 times
- Been liked: 5 times
We all know Sidey's 2019 has not been as spectacular as his 2018. He is, however:
4th at the Club in the AFLCA votes (behind Grundy, Pendlebury and Treloar)
4th at the Club for total disposals (494 at an average of 26 per game, behind Treloar by a lot and Pendlebury and Crisp by a disposal or so per game)
5th at the Club for tackles (behind Treloar, Grundy, Pendlebury and Brown)
3rd at the Club for inside 50s (behind Pendlebury and Treloar)
4th at the Club for clearances (behind Treloar, Grundy and Pendlebury)
5th at the Club for contested possessions (behind Treloar, Grundy, Pendlebury and Crisp)
2nd for uncontested possessions (behind Treloar)
3rd at the Club for marks (behind Mihocek and Crisp)
2nd at the Club for bounces (behind Treloar)
7th at the Club for rebounds (only he and Crisp are this high in the rankings for both rebounds and inside 50s).
I understand, of course, that stats aren't everything (and there are, of course, others - I'm just running through the ones on Afl Tables) but anyone would think he was for the knackers, reading many of the comments on Nick's about him this year.
I wonder whether it is just the juxtaposition with his 2018 that is the problem. If you compare his 2019 with his 2017 (when he also won the Copeland), he's averaging one less disposal per game, having about the same number of marks, goals and tackles, getting more contested ball, having about the same number of effective possessions per game, having better disposal efficiency, doing more in the defensive part of the ground, spending slightly longer on the ground each week and gaining more metres, on average, each week.
There is a reasonable likelihood that - even if Collingwood doesn't make it past the first week of the finals - he will finish 2019 with more disposals than he has had in any season in his career, bar 2018 (when he played 26 games) and 2012 (when he played 24 games).
He is almost certain to have his 8th successive top 5 finish in the Copeland (last 7 were 1st, 1st, 3rd, 5th, 2nd, 3rd and 4th). Given that his career has been played out over a period that overlaps with the most stellar parts of the stellar careers of Swan and Pendlebury (who, between them, have won 7 of the 8 Copelands that Sidebottom hasn't won since he started to play for Collingwood), this is an outstanding career.
It seems a shame that a few more of you don't afford him the respect his career obviously demands.
4th at the Club in the AFLCA votes (behind Grundy, Pendlebury and Treloar)
4th at the Club for total disposals (494 at an average of 26 per game, behind Treloar by a lot and Pendlebury and Crisp by a disposal or so per game)
5th at the Club for tackles (behind Treloar, Grundy, Pendlebury and Brown)
3rd at the Club for inside 50s (behind Pendlebury and Treloar)
4th at the Club for clearances (behind Treloar, Grundy and Pendlebury)
5th at the Club for contested possessions (behind Treloar, Grundy, Pendlebury and Crisp)
2nd for uncontested possessions (behind Treloar)
3rd at the Club for marks (behind Mihocek and Crisp)
2nd at the Club for bounces (behind Treloar)
7th at the Club for rebounds (only he and Crisp are this high in the rankings for both rebounds and inside 50s).
I understand, of course, that stats aren't everything (and there are, of course, others - I'm just running through the ones on Afl Tables) but anyone would think he was for the knackers, reading many of the comments on Nick's about him this year.
I wonder whether it is just the juxtaposition with his 2018 that is the problem. If you compare his 2019 with his 2017 (when he also won the Copeland), he's averaging one less disposal per game, having about the same number of marks, goals and tackles, getting more contested ball, having about the same number of effective possessions per game, having better disposal efficiency, doing more in the defensive part of the ground, spending slightly longer on the ground each week and gaining more metres, on average, each week.
There is a reasonable likelihood that - even if Collingwood doesn't make it past the first week of the finals - he will finish 2019 with more disposals than he has had in any season in his career, bar 2018 (when he played 26 games) and 2012 (when he played 24 games).
He is almost certain to have his 8th successive top 5 finish in the Copeland (last 7 were 1st, 1st, 3rd, 5th, 2nd, 3rd and 4th). Given that his career has been played out over a period that overlaps with the most stellar parts of the stellar careers of Swan and Pendlebury (who, between them, have won 7 of the 8 Copelands that Sidebottom hasn't won since he started to play for Collingwood), this is an outstanding career.
It seems a shame that a few more of you don't afford him the respect his career obviously demands.