Well, I was only juxtaposing them in regard to the specific issue of loudmouthed discourtesy and irresponsible speech. I think we're both agreed that if we could sack one of either Madonna or Trump from their current jobs, we'd both sack Trump. It's nice that we agree on something !watt price tully wrote:Cheers I got that - just thought it was curious to juxtapose the two.Mugwump wrote:True, and that is why I said "what she represents" in my post.watt price tully wrote: With respect , Madonna is irrelevant has no power relative to Trump on the who is not irrelevant & has power....
I think they both show, in their behaviours, the loss of civility and courtesy which are the real cancer in our civic life. They create each other.
Post inauguration Trump:
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"Care" is the wrong word for how I feel.watt price tully wrote:So you do care after allstui magpie wrote:Rita Panahi nails it IMHO
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My main interest in the sideshow is the inability of those on the left to let go of the fact that Trump won the election and the constancy of the attacks, most of which have little foundation but sound good.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Gees what did poor ol Madonna do to piss everyone off!
If she has used her massive fame to help get a massive turnout for something she believes in, what's wrong with that?
2 million people in a peaceful demonstration, and in AMERICA??!! No way!!!!!
Tom Hanks still says it best 'I hope Trump does such a great job that I vote him in next time'. It's done people, and anyone who didn't vote has that blood on their hands!
If she has used her massive fame to help get a massive turnout for something she believes in, what's wrong with that?
2 million people in a peaceful demonstration, and in AMERICA??!! No way!!!!!
Tom Hanks still says it best 'I hope Trump does such a great job that I vote him in next time'. It's done people, and anyone who didn't vote has that blood on their hands!
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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I hope they never let go. The last thing the world needs is for people to normalise or accept his administration. Maintain the rage!stui magpie wrote:"Care" is the wrong word for how I feel.watt price tully wrote:So you do care after allstui magpie wrote:Rita Panahi nails it IMHO
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My main interest in the sideshow is the inability of those on the left to let go of the fact that Trump won the election and the constancy of the attacks, most of which have little foundation but sound good.
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
The most important right people have in a democracy is the right to protest. It ought to be a sign of very grave concern that so many people are protesting at the commencement of this presidency. It shows what a completely divisive figure this guy is. He's governing with about a quarter of the potential vote, so he'd best be a little careful how he proceeds. He'll certainly be very good for big business - but so would a competent Republucan legislator have been. It remains to be seen whether the "trickle down" approach will produce enough benefit for the US's poor average white trash that sufficient numbers will vote for him a second time. Of course, theirs is a politics based upon disentitlement and hate, so it may be that it isn't necessary to make them better off - making ethnic minorities worse off might be all they need to feel vindicated.
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Pies4shaw wrote:The most important right people have in a democracy is the right to protest. It ought to be a sign of very grave concern that so many people are protesting at the commencement of this presidency. It shows what a completely divisive figure this guy is. He's governing with about a quarter of the potential vote, so he'd best be a little careful how he proceeds. He'll certainly be very good for big business - but so would a competent Republucan legislator have been. It remains to be seen whether the "trickle down" approach will produce enough benefit for the US's poor average white trash that sufficient numbers will vote for him a second time. Of course, theirs is a politics based upon disentitlement and hate, so it may be that it isn't necessary to make them better off - making ethnic minorities worse off might be all they need to feel vindicated.
I like how all the Trump supporters are labelled as stupid white trash etc....
Here's the other side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqc6vXAqRM
And this amazing womans speech is so compelling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QNDdR3u_1c
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I hate having to share something by Joe Hildebrand, but he's basically right about this.
http://www.news.com.au/world/north-amer ... ddb87eebe9
http://www.news.com.au/world/north-amer ... ddb87eebe9
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Yes Gough. Keep drinking the KoolaidDavid wrote:I hope they never let go. The last thing the world needs is for people to normalise or accept his administration. Maintain the rage!stui magpie wrote:"Care" is the wrong word for how I feel.watt price tully wrote: So you do care after all
My main interest in the sideshow is the inability of those on the left to let go of the fact that Trump won the election and the constancy of the attacks, most of which have little foundation but sound good.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Your argument lacks a degree of subtlety of thought - I certainly didn't say anything about "all" of Trump's supporters. My comment was about that particular part of the electorate and the challenge he faces in maintaining that vote.Skids wrote:Pies4shaw wrote:The most important right people have in a democracy is the right to protest. It ought to be a sign of very grave concern that so many people are protesting at the commencement of this presidency. It shows what a completely divisive figure this guy is. He's governing with about a quarter of the potential vote, so he'd best be a little careful how he proceeds. He'll certainly be very good for big business - but so would a competent Republucan legislator have been. It remains to be seen whether the "trickle down" approach will produce enough benefit for the US's poor average white trash that sufficient numbers will vote for him a second time. Of course, theirs is a politics based upon disentitlement and hate, so it may be that it isn't necessary to make them better off - making ethnic minorities worse off might be all they need to feel vindicated.
I like how all the Trump supporters are labelled as stupid white trash etc....
Here's the other side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqc6vXAqRM
And this amazing womans speech is so compelling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QNDdR3u_1c
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LOL. nail hit head. he's not basically right, he's nailed it.David wrote:I hate having to share something by Joe Hildebrand, but he's basically right about this.
http://www.news.com.au/world/north-amer ... ddb87eebe9
All the idiots "maintaining the rage" are just digging their own grave. The harder they push, the more the majority moves away from their angst. They ain't damaging Trump, just themselves.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.