Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player discussion
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Career averages:
Riccardi - 10disp, 4.4marks, 1.3g, 0.8b, 1.3tackles
Ash - 7.3disp, 3.3marks, 1.3g, 0.7b, 1.7tackles
An upgrade? Not meaningfully. Remember Ash has been jerked about a bit, same as Kreuger (pushed back, 2nd ruck, key forward, etc). I think Ash should leave for his own sake as I think he'd do better at a club with two strong key forwards (think Adelaide or Carlton). I'd like us to give K a pre-season at full-back to see if he could be a better Frampton.
Riccardi - 10disp, 4.4marks, 1.3g, 0.8b, 1.3tackles
Ash - 7.3disp, 3.3marks, 1.3g, 0.7b, 1.7tackles
An upgrade? Not meaningfully. Remember Ash has been jerked about a bit, same as Kreuger (pushed back, 2nd ruck, key forward, etc). I think Ash should leave for his own sake as I think he'd do better at a club with two strong key forwards (think Adelaide or Carlton). I'd like us to give K a pre-season at full-back to see if he could be a better Frampton.
Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player movements
Being a former Charger, I saw a bit of Phillips as a junior and I know his story pretty well.LaurieHolden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:10 am Hey @Pies2016 do you or anyone else have any eye on Will Phillips development? https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/will-phillips/
The #3 pick in the 2020 National Draft has not been handed games in this North Melbourne side, despite the team floating around the bottom of the ladder for successive seasons. He is an NFA in 2025 and seemingly struggling to force is way into their midfield.
He was incredibly disciplined and committed for a junior, something you understandably don’t see that often in 17 year old boys. He was a leader and standards driver in that Chargers outfit.
I know that North picked him partly on the back of his professionalism and preparation ( this was later confirmed by Rawlings who was in charge of their footy Dept at the time ) but I was still surprised he went so high because he wasn’t necessarily a stand out as a player.
He’s also had to cop a lot of flak about being picked one spot before Logan McDonald and although that’s not his fault, North supporters have been very unforgiving ever since.
He’s had some injuries and an illness early days and this season he made a bit of a comeback as a tagger and picked up some quality scalps.
From a distance, I’m not sure he would make us much better but there’s always a story behind the story, so you would trust the club to make the right call either way.
I haven’t checked these guys contract status but if we wanted to add some pace and youth into our line up, I’d be making enquiries about “ kids “ like Josh Sinn ( Port ) and Elijah Tsatas ( Essendon )
Both were line breakers and very impressive as juniors. Tsatas absolutely tore up our VFL team this year and I recently heard Sinn was a bit homesick and disappointed by his lack of opportunities over there. I’m only going by memory here but I think Tsatas was around #5 and Josh was in the early teens in their draft years. Both are Vic metro kids. They’re out there but timing is everything when it comes to players moving clubs.
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After watching Dom Brew for Werribee today, I got to wondering if he was any chance as a mature aged recruit? His final quarter was amazing and propelled Werribee to victory on a day where is hammered down and even hailed during the match.
He has had 2 good seasons in a row and brings lots of positive energy and emotion to the playing group. I think he may even be one of the faves for the Liston Trophy. He is tough and plays as an inside Mid, he has amazing leadership qualities and was the VFL state team captain earlier in the year. He'll be 28 in January, and at 180cm, some may say he is too similar to Lachie Sullivan for Collingwood to consider.
We saw Clohesy and Mannagh get drafted from Werribee last year. (Kind of weird for Clohesy as the Suns took him right after their VFL team beat Werribee in the GF). Some thought Brew was a chance last year. Could we see it this year?
https://vfl.aflmstats.com/player/Dominic_Brew
He has had 2 good seasons in a row and brings lots of positive energy and emotion to the playing group. I think he may even be one of the faves for the Liston Trophy. He is tough and plays as an inside Mid, he has amazing leadership qualities and was the VFL state team captain earlier in the year. He'll be 28 in January, and at 180cm, some may say he is too similar to Lachie Sullivan for Collingwood to consider.
We saw Clohesy and Mannagh get drafted from Werribee last year. (Kind of weird for Clohesy as the Suns took him right after their VFL team beat Werribee in the GF). Some thought Brew was a chance last year. Could we see it this year?
https://vfl.aflmstats.com/player/Dominic_Brew
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Re: Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player movements
I think the difference is that Riccardi is playing and would be in GWS best 23 if not injured. 19 games this year for 26 goals whilst playing behind the Coleman Medal winner isn't too bad. I dont think Riccardi would want to leave anyway. We're also comparing 69 games to 27.
Ash had a huge opportunity to come in with McStay out all year. Maybe we expected too much of him after showing very promising signs in 2023. He may have even played in the GF had he not been injured late in the year. His PF performance in 2022 was somewhat rectified with his numbers in 2023, but the 3 games he played in 2024 were just plain bad.
I guess one way to look at it, is would Riccardi have played 19 or more games if he were at Collingwood in 2024? And do we still have hope that Ash can get back to what he showed in 2023?
Ash had a huge opportunity to come in with McStay out all year. Maybe we expected too much of him after showing very promising signs in 2023. He may have even played in the GF had he not been injured late in the year. His PF performance in 2022 was somewhat rectified with his numbers in 2023, but the 3 games he played in 2024 were just plain bad.
I guess one way to look at it, is would Riccardi have played 19 or more games if he were at Collingwood in 2024? And do we still have hope that Ash can get back to what he showed in 2023?
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I would say after Peatling's good performances in two finals now, he won't be leaving the Giants
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David Zita said on fox during this GWS game, Peatling is most likely staying now.
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I wonder if Jessie Hogan wants out after that debacle!
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If he did, he would never come back to melb. There is a reason why he wanted to live in Sydney.think positive wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:32 pm I wonder if Jessie Hogan wants out after that debacle!
Out of the footy bubble.
Plus he just signed a new contract.
He'll retire at GWS
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It’s possibly but he’s going to have to take less money and less game time
They have midfield options galore plus a couple academy kids coming through
There cap is super tight so a decent offer on longer terms may be more enticing to stay
He hasn’t done his chances of a upgraded offer any harm
Last I heard GWS offer was 2 years on around $325k plus some incentives which better the his current deal with is close to minimum wage plus match payments
I know our offer was 4 years on about $400k with a couple incentive triggers to take his wage up closer to $500k
We might have to up our offer to 5 years and put the base up to the $500k mark without the incentives
The kid can play a variety of roles from lock down/% run with to inside mid and is a decent kick and tackles well
If we don’t land him then we will be left with Hobbs as our only option
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I was seeing him as a bit of a longer term replacement for WHE though I notice wiki has him listed at 182cm. Club has him at 186cm though, so I don't know which is correct.qldmagpie67 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:02 pm The kid can play a variety of roles from lock down/% run with to inside mid and is a decent kick and tackles well
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Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player movements
^ Possibly. But 2 years could be enough for him to help a young side or even play a part in a team looking to finish top 4. It'd be a great story. At Collingwood, you'd think Sullivan, Fin and even Bytel are already here. So I dont think he'd be a fit for us.
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Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player movements
Anyone know anything about Jarrod Brander. Played 22 games for WC and 5 for GWS. Now playing in the Sunraysia League, kicked 5 goals for the runner up. 195cm 92kg, looks pretty good in the WC highlights package ~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwF7lb5mpgE
https://www.afl.com.au/news/945266/fun- ... e-of-footy
92 goals from 20 games this season, for what it's worth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwF7lb5mpgE
https://www.afl.com.au/news/945266/fun- ... e-of-footy
92 goals from 20 games this season, for what it's worth.
Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player movements
~ Hmm, yeah just did a bit of a search here. Looks like he might be another one destined to be a legendary country league footballer but lacking the mental resilience for professional AFL. A pity really, considering he's kicking bags of goals and is the captain of his side.
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Peatling is 25 next season and has played a tiny amount of useful football in his 45 games across 4 seasons. He’s only worth a go if he can be acquired cheap.