I would find it hard to believe they both spent similar minutes in the midfield but I'm happy to go with thto statPies2016 wrote:Re the Dangerfield comparison and I'm not trying to rate Sidebottom alongside Danger in any form or fashion but below is an interesting C D statistic.
In 2016 ( Dangers Brownlow year ) for the minutes spent in the midfield, only Dangerfield and Sidebottom were rated at an elite level for intercept marks and goals scored.
This little stat simply shows how hard both these guys work between the two arcs and not only are they working hard but they are making an impact in those areas.
I'm always happy to argue the point of comparing a benchmark against mortals but that's just opinion. The facts are that stats don't lie from a big sample base, albeit Danger certainly has more strings to his bow than Sidey will ever have.
As for Sidebottoms quiet second half against Dee's. 21 possessions in first half and 11 in the second. I guess if those numbers were reversed, then he would have had a better game according to some. You could argue that he was a main reason that we were four goals odd up at half time.
In 2016 Sidey had 17 goals his 4th best return in a season in his 8 completed seasons which I would think wouldn't rate as elite
I went over the goal kicking records for 2016 and there were 34 midfielders (who also spent time forward or back during games for there various teams) who kicked more goals than Sidey and 24 who kicked more than Dangerfield so I'm unsure how they decide on the minutes played part.
I'm not knocking Sidey it's just my opinion he isn't an elite player simple.
As for Monday it sort of proves my case when in 1 half he's fantastic and in the second half he is average (11 disposals in 2 terms is hardly elite numbers)
And it does give credit to the theory that we need him playing well consistently to be a chance in games against similar opposition.
Pies2016 if he showed the performance he did in the first half for the whole game we would have more than likely won and also the same could be said for several games this season.
My thing has always been about his consistency not ability.
He does make some horrible errors by foot and hand but so does Dangerfield and Treloar but his errors seem more often than not to be costly in terms of goals or momentum.
Watch the first 10 minutes of Monday's game and in his first 4 touches were all ineffective or smoothered. On his 5th he hit a beautiful pass inboard which led a couple of touches later to a goal and the commentators carried on like it was the greatest pass in history but nothing was said of the previous 4
He skates under the radar for criticism by many commentators like he's a media darling which is unusual for a Collingwood player
If he could bring that style of performance in the first half last Monday every quarter of every game he played he would certainly have cause to be in the discussion of being elite.
