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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:50 pm
by Mike35

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:28 pm
by Pies2016

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:40 pm
by K
The simplification "Beams for pick 10", at the least, feels not totally crazy from either club's perspective.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:53 pm
by 3rd degree
dp.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:53 pm
by 3rd degree
Welcome back Beams, I still wont forget his smug exit, so he better get back to smashing it.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:36 am
by Culprit
Have we taken over Beams Contract or does he get a new one? If we have taken over his contract then it's a win as his was front end loaded with the Bears.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:49 am
by Deja Vu
Who would you rather have though? Gibbs or Beams?

No contest

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:05 am
by melliot
I agree we could fall off just as easy as the Crows. So no cazy camps for us. Need to continue the love. :)


The competition is very tight. A matter of 2 games separating top 4 to missing the 8. If nothing changes in performance, we'll get a tougher fixture, which could see us miss the 8.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:20 am
by Pies4shaw

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:21 am
by BBHS
So full circle the assets involved in the two deals:

Pies End up with:
JDG
Crisp
Beams
Greenwood
Pick 41 & 44 - Isaac Quaynor*

Bears End up with:
Pick 18
Future First Pick 18 I'm tipping
Pick 56
2014 Pick 65 Josh Watts - Delisted
We slayed them in my opinion.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:35 am
by Pies2016
melliot wrote:I agree we could fall off just as easy as the Crows. So no cazy camps for us. Need to continue the love. :)


The competition is very tight. A matter of 2 games separating top 4 to missing the 8. If nothing changes in performance, we'll get a tougher fixture, which could see us miss the 8.
Totally agree. We have had six different grand finalists in the last three years.
For anyone to think that Beams is the difference between a flag and not, is delusional. He is a good addition but he is nowhere near the difference between a premier and runner up. We will need a bit going for us but at least we seem to now know the road to travel to get there.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:04 am
by SwansWay
Pies2016 wrote:
melliot wrote:I agree we could fall off just as easy as the Crows. So no cazy camps for us. Need to continue the love. :)


The competition is very tight. A matter of 2 games separating top 4 to missing the 8. If nothing changes in performance, we'll get a tougher fixture, which could see us miss the 8.
Totally agree. We have had six different grand finalists in the last three years.
For anyone to think that Beams is the difference between a flag and not, is delusional. He is a good addition but he is nowhere near the difference between a premier and runner up. We will need a bit going for us but at least we seem to now know the road to travel to get there.
I don't think he will be the difference. The difference will be, hopefully, a better run with injuries plus more familiarity with the game plan. I still don't think Collingwood found their true rhythm despite great performances. This year was akin to our 2009 but we went one step further. Next year IMO we will have a strong system in place as we did in 2010 when we got the job done week in, week out. Doesn't guarantee a GF appearance but after going down by 5 points, there's no reason to not be confident in this group.

Adelaide were/are a different story. False equivalency. Firstly, they were dominant for all of 2017 whereas we were underdogs almost every time we played a top 8 side. And the Crows had other things going on. Their club unraveled. I mean that stare they did in each final was idiotic. That's not a sign of a team that's in a comfortable place, mentally speaking. When you resort to silly gimmicks like that, I'd say it's a sign of precarious fortitude. And any time a player wanted to leave, they were publicly pilloried by Tex and the club. Disinvited from places etc. Yeah Pyke could very well be a sociopath.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:54 am
by E
BBHS wrote:So full circle the assets involved in the two deals:

Pies End up with:
JDG
Crisp
Beams
Greenwood
Pick 41 & 44 - Isaac Quaynor*

Bears End up with:
Pick 18
Future First Pick 18 I'm tipping
Pick 56
2014 Pick 65 Josh Watts - Delisted
We slayed them in my opinion.
you cant include Beams in the summary as we had him before we traded him. Actually, the better way to say it is as follows:

Pies End up with:
JDG
Crisp
Greenwood
Pick 41 & 44 - Isaac Quaynor*
(one gun player short of a flag in the year Beams is unavailable)

Bears End up with:
4 years of Beams prime years (totally wasted)
Pick 18
Future First Pick 18 I'm tipping
Pick 56
2014 Pick 65 Josh Watts - Delisted

We definitely slayed them.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:21 am
by Deja Vu

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:37 am
by Pies4shaw
Only if you think Collingwood needs another slow mid more than it needs outside run from the midfield. Also, Gibbs has kicked 4 goals in his last three finals and once kicked 3 in a final.