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Thinking ahead to 2024 draft...(and beyond)
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So Jesse Hogan is coming to Collingwood to then??
So Jesse Hogan is coming to Collingwood to then??
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i assume we will not be delisting anyone this year. With no pick inside the top 50, you would hardly expect to improve on guys like McInnes, Kruger etc from there.
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kreuger is a hard worker, he goes this year, and AJ next year.
Membrey holds up the fort for a couple of years
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Membrey holds up the fort for a couple of years
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Membrey can be a very serviceable option in our squad.Charlie Oneeye wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:31 pm kreuger is a hard worker, he goes this year, and AJ next year.
Membrey holds up the fort for a couple of years
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2001 draft # 58 worked out alright fingers crossed for this year as well
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^ "Collingwood perhaps didn't know what to expect from its stocky pick No.58, who played just three senior games in his first two seasons at the club."
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Alright all the power picks will be gone by then. All the KPPs, all the high performance mids forwards smalls.
He may not be round, he may not be stocky but I’m feeling like a Hine bolter special could come again at #58. Well Nicksters are going to have the eyes out for this anyway.
He may not be round, he may not be stocky but I’m feeling like a Hine bolter special could come again at #58. Well Nicksters are going to have the eyes out for this anyway.
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Re: Thinking ahead to 2024 draft...(and beyond)
Collingwood currently hold picks #52, #55 and #58.
Unless we trade out a player or two on the last day, our draft position won’t change much at all after Wed evening’s trade deadline. We cannot trade out either our F2 or F3, given we had earlier traded out our F1.
While those three pick themselves are speculative at best, they are at least considered “ live “ picks and all have a draft points value attached to them. The expectation would be that all three picks come in on the night and would more likely settle as picks in and around the late forties after all F/S and NGA bidding has been taken into account.
Goes without saying, getting just one of these picks right on the night ( and we wouldn’t know for a while ) would be a very good outcome for the club.
Unless we trade out a player or two on the last day, our draft position won’t change much at all after Wed evening’s trade deadline. We cannot trade out either our F2 or F3, given we had earlier traded out our F1.
While those three pick themselves are speculative at best, they are at least considered “ live “ picks and all have a draft points value attached to them. The expectation would be that all three picks come in on the night and would more likely settle as picks in and around the late forties after all F/S and NGA bidding has been taken into account.
Goes without saying, getting just one of these picks right on the night ( and we wouldn’t know for a while ) would be a very good outcome for the club.
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We have to take at least 3 draft players dont we.?
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Re: Thinking ahead to 2024 draft...(and beyond)
Well I had my sights set on Jack Whitlock, Alix Tauru, and Matt Whitlock. I guess I'll need to reassess.
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Pick 58 is the Brownlow pick. Swan and Neale both taken #58.
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The father-son & academy players tipped to go top 30
Levi Ashcroft (2) – Brisbane F/S
Leonardo Lombard (10) – Suns Academy
Isaac Kako (13) – Essendon NGA
Sam Marshall (22) – Lions Academy
List of the other father-sons (from Reddit) ~
Tyler Welsh (Adelaide) A promising 191cm key forward, Welsh announced himself in an under-18 national championships game against Vic Country last year as he booted five goals. He has great marking hands, nice speed and is generally a good kick at goal. His father Scott played for North Melbourne, Adelaide and the Western Bulldogs but Tyler is only eligible as a father-son for the Crows.
Ben Camporeale (Carlton) A classy midfielder who wins his own ball and makes good decisions, the right-footer won the best-on-ground medal in the under-17 Futures game on AFL Grand Final day last year. He is the son of 1995 Blues premiership player Scott and is considered to sit slightly ahead of his twin brother Lucas.
Lucas Camporeale (Carlton) A left-footed wingman or half-back who was prominent like his brother in the under-17 Futures game last year, Lucas has nice composure and good skills. The Glenelg product is also eligible to join the Blues as a father-son, given his father Scott played 233 AFL games for the club.
Elwood Peckett (St Kilda) A high half-forward or inside midfielder, Peckett has started the season strongly with the Dandenong Stingrays in the Coates Talent League. He possesses good athletic traits and has some breakaway power. Elwood is the son of Justin Peckett, who played 252 games for the Saints and finished second in the club’s best-and-fairest in 1994.
River Stevens (North Melbourne) The son of two-time Kangaroos premiership player and former captain Anthony, Stevens is a 176cm small forward who snagged three goals from 15 disposals for the Geelong Falcons in round 2 of the Coates Talent League. He works hard on the lead and has good finishing skills with ball in hand.
Noah Yze (Melbourne) He is the son of Richmond coach Adem, but Noah could soon find himself at rival club Melbourne where his father played 271 games. The Oakleigh Chargers product plays in a similar way to his dad as a mid-sized lead-up marking forward and stands 190cm tall.
Ky Burgoyne (Hawthorn/Port Adelaide) The son of Shaun ‘Silk’ Burgoyne, Ky is father-son eligible for both Hawthorn and the Port Adelaide given his dad played well over 100 games for both clubs. He is a competitive defender who reads the play well. He also has speed to burn, having finished second in the 20m sprint during pre-season testing in South Australia with a time of 2.88 seconds.
Rome Burgoyne (Port Adelaide) The son of 270-game Power champion and 2004 premiership player Peter, Rome is also the younger brother of current Port Adelaide wingman Jase. He’s a 182cm rebounding defender who is clean with his disposal and regularly makes good decisions.
Louie Montgomery (Port Adelaide) A versatile 184cm player who can be used in defence, through the midfield or forward, Montgomery is quite athletic, reads the play well and can win his own footy. His father Brett played for both the Western Bulldogs and Port Adelaide, but Louie is only father-son eligible for the Power.
Oliver Francou (Port Adelaide) A midfielder from North Adelaide, Francou possesses good endurance and is hard at the footy. He is the son of 156-game Power champion Josh, who was a three-time Showdown Medal winner and was an All-Australian in 2002.
Isaac Barry (Sydney) A 180cm prospect from the Oakleigh Chargers, Barry managed just one Coates Talent League game last year due to injury but returned as a 19-year-old this season. He is the son of Sydney’s 2005 premiership hero, Leo.
Ned Maginness (Hawthorn) The son of two-time Hawks premiership player Scott and the younger brother of current Hawthorn midfielder Finn, Ned returned to the Sandringham Dragons as a 19-year-old this year after being overlooked in last year’s draft. He’s a 194cm big-bodied inside midfielder or running wingman.
Alfie Wojcinski (Geelong) A 181cm midfielder or half-back who is part of the Geelong Falcons program, Alfie is the son of three-time Geelong premiership player David.
Alex Alessio (Essendon) A 199cm developing ruckman or key forward, Alessio is still relatively raw but is coming along with his game at the Calder Cannons. He is the son of 2000 Essendon premiership player Steven.
Noah Caracella (Essendon) A high forward who reads the game well, the 188cm Caracella is playing for the Geelong Falcons this year. He is the son of former Essendon, Brisbane Lions and Collingwood midfielder Blake, but is only father-son eligible for the Bombers where his dad is the current VFL coach.
Boston Everitt (St Kilda) A 183cm forward, Everitt is linked up with the Gold Coast Suns Academy as well as St Kilda. He is the son of former St Kilda, Hawthorn and Sydney ruckman Peter ‘Spida’ Everitt, but is only father-son eligible for the Saints.
Levi Ashcroft (2) – Brisbane F/S
Leonardo Lombard (10) – Suns Academy
Isaac Kako (13) – Essendon NGA
Sam Marshall (22) – Lions Academy
List of the other father-sons (from Reddit) ~
Tyler Welsh (Adelaide) A promising 191cm key forward, Welsh announced himself in an under-18 national championships game against Vic Country last year as he booted five goals. He has great marking hands, nice speed and is generally a good kick at goal. His father Scott played for North Melbourne, Adelaide and the Western Bulldogs but Tyler is only eligible as a father-son for the Crows.
Ben Camporeale (Carlton) A classy midfielder who wins his own ball and makes good decisions, the right-footer won the best-on-ground medal in the under-17 Futures game on AFL Grand Final day last year. He is the son of 1995 Blues premiership player Scott and is considered to sit slightly ahead of his twin brother Lucas.
Lucas Camporeale (Carlton) A left-footed wingman or half-back who was prominent like his brother in the under-17 Futures game last year, Lucas has nice composure and good skills. The Glenelg product is also eligible to join the Blues as a father-son, given his father Scott played 233 AFL games for the club.
Elwood Peckett (St Kilda) A high half-forward or inside midfielder, Peckett has started the season strongly with the Dandenong Stingrays in the Coates Talent League. He possesses good athletic traits and has some breakaway power. Elwood is the son of Justin Peckett, who played 252 games for the Saints and finished second in the club’s best-and-fairest in 1994.
River Stevens (North Melbourne) The son of two-time Kangaroos premiership player and former captain Anthony, Stevens is a 176cm small forward who snagged three goals from 15 disposals for the Geelong Falcons in round 2 of the Coates Talent League. He works hard on the lead and has good finishing skills with ball in hand.
Noah Yze (Melbourne) He is the son of Richmond coach Adem, but Noah could soon find himself at rival club Melbourne where his father played 271 games. The Oakleigh Chargers product plays in a similar way to his dad as a mid-sized lead-up marking forward and stands 190cm tall.
Ky Burgoyne (Hawthorn/Port Adelaide) The son of Shaun ‘Silk’ Burgoyne, Ky is father-son eligible for both Hawthorn and the Port Adelaide given his dad played well over 100 games for both clubs. He is a competitive defender who reads the play well. He also has speed to burn, having finished second in the 20m sprint during pre-season testing in South Australia with a time of 2.88 seconds.
Rome Burgoyne (Port Adelaide) The son of 270-game Power champion and 2004 premiership player Peter, Rome is also the younger brother of current Port Adelaide wingman Jase. He’s a 182cm rebounding defender who is clean with his disposal and regularly makes good decisions.
Louie Montgomery (Port Adelaide) A versatile 184cm player who can be used in defence, through the midfield or forward, Montgomery is quite athletic, reads the play well and can win his own footy. His father Brett played for both the Western Bulldogs and Port Adelaide, but Louie is only father-son eligible for the Power.
Oliver Francou (Port Adelaide) A midfielder from North Adelaide, Francou possesses good endurance and is hard at the footy. He is the son of 156-game Power champion Josh, who was a three-time Showdown Medal winner and was an All-Australian in 2002.
Isaac Barry (Sydney) A 180cm prospect from the Oakleigh Chargers, Barry managed just one Coates Talent League game last year due to injury but returned as a 19-year-old this season. He is the son of Sydney’s 2005 premiership hero, Leo.
Ned Maginness (Hawthorn) The son of two-time Hawks premiership player Scott and the younger brother of current Hawthorn midfielder Finn, Ned returned to the Sandringham Dragons as a 19-year-old this year after being overlooked in last year’s draft. He’s a 194cm big-bodied inside midfielder or running wingman.
Alfie Wojcinski (Geelong) A 181cm midfielder or half-back who is part of the Geelong Falcons program, Alfie is the son of three-time Geelong premiership player David.
Alex Alessio (Essendon) A 199cm developing ruckman or key forward, Alessio is still relatively raw but is coming along with his game at the Calder Cannons. He is the son of 2000 Essendon premiership player Steven.
Noah Caracella (Essendon) A high forward who reads the game well, the 188cm Caracella is playing for the Geelong Falcons this year. He is the son of former Essendon, Brisbane Lions and Collingwood midfielder Blake, but is only father-son eligible for the Bombers where his dad is the current VFL coach.
Boston Everitt (St Kilda) A 183cm forward, Everitt is linked up with the Gold Coast Suns Academy as well as St Kilda. He is the son of former St Kilda, Hawthorn and Sydney ruckman Peter ‘Spida’ Everitt, but is only father-son eligible for the Saints.
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Re: Thinking ahead to 2024 draft...(and beyond)
Any idea about Zai Millane as a Suns Academy player? Is he expected to be drafted by the Suns?
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Re: Thinking ahead to 2024 draft...(and beyond)
Just a reminder on how DELISTED FREE AGENCY works. A club can announce they have secured a delisted free agent anytime between now and up to the N D. The main consideration in any DFA pick up, is that they need to have been delisted by the parent club first. Clubs will begin to fine tune their lists immediately after the trade period concludes and that’s when decisions on those players who don’t have contracts in front of them, will be made. The parent club can either offer these players a new contract and then it’s up to the player to decide whether he stays or goes. OR, the parent club simply cuts them and that’s when they are officially identified as DFAs.
In the case of players like Membrey, Hayes and Tomlinson ( who are yet to be delisted ) they would generally ( but not always ) wait on the outcome of conversations with their parent club before making any decision to join a new club.
Point being, if these conversations follow proper process, we LIKELY wouldn’t have any updates on the above players for another week or so.
OFFICIAL announcement of any players joining new clubs commences from Nov 1 and concludes around a week later just before the N D.
In the case of players like Membrey, Hayes and Tomlinson ( who are yet to be delisted ) they would generally ( but not always ) wait on the outcome of conversations with their parent club before making any decision to join a new club.
Point being, if these conversations follow proper process, we LIKELY wouldn’t have any updates on the above players for another week or so.
OFFICIAL announcement of any players joining new clubs commences from Nov 1 and concludes around a week later just before the N D.
Last edited by Pies2016 on Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:52 am, edited 2 times in total.
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