Post Match. Lions beat Pies. All comments.

[inxs88]

Next week:

outs:

* Murphy (manage)
* McCreery (suspended)
* Ryan (injured)
* Lipinski (omit)

ins:

Ruscoe
McInnes
DeGoey
Hill

B: Quaynor Frampton Howe
HB: Crisp Ruscoe Maynard
C: JAICOS DeGOEY WHE
HF: McINNES MIHOCEK STEELE
F: HILL McSTAY ELLIOTT
F: COX PENDLES MITCHELL
ICH: ADAMS, CAMERON, MARKOV, NOBLE
SUB: GINNIVAN

We need Howe down back for leadership and McInnes can be a perfect forward replacement.

[Magpietothemax]

^Agree mostly, except I think we should rest Hill again, as anything hamstring related needs to be treated with extreme caution.
So Harrison in as well.
Cox should be selected in the starting 22, and Harrison sub.

[Take_a_Screamer]

B: Quaynor Frampton Howe
HB: Crisp Ruscoe Maynard
C: JAICOS DeGOEY WHE
HF: McINNES MIHOCEK STEELE
F: HILL McSTAY ELLIOTT
F: COX PENDLES MITCHELL
ICH: ADAMS, CAMERON, MARKOV, NOBLE
SUB: GINNIVAN

We need Howe down back for leadership and McInnes can be a perfect forward replacement.

That's pretty much how I see it
If Fly picks your team, I would be happy...

All these players are capable of having an impact
We need to see a champion team rather than team of champions.
Go back to what was working successfully earlier in the year.

Note, in hindsight the Ryan experiment, at this stage, was ludicrous. The kid felt under a lot of pressure.
Howe's leadership in the backline is needed and very important.
Let Cox/Cameron do the ruckwork, not McStay. Time for testing is over.

[Raw Hammer]

If Port win tomorrow in Perth then they’ll finish 3rd (they play a undermanned Richmond in Adelaide final round).

If that’s the case, I think we need to tank next week to avoid The Melbourne-Carlton side of the draw week one-two of finals. You can bet your arse if Melbourne win tomorrow (and Port lose) they won’t be trying to defeat Sydney at the SCG final round only to be ‘rewarded’ with a week one trip to the Gabba.

[bally12]

Ginni needs to learn to mark the ball in his hands above his head. About 3 times he jumped and tried to take a chest mark when he was in the favoured position... Result? Easy spoil. Come on coaches what's going on down there? Under 12s stuff.

[JC Hartley]

In a clash of the heavyweights and a potential finals preview next month, Collingwood failed to get going against the Brisbane Lions who had all the answers at the right time and key moments to record a victory by 24 points at Marvel Stadium. In the first quarter, the Magpies did not generate any significant ball movement from clearances, where the Lions won the ball first more often than not, and were razor-sharp at goal with 6 majors to open up a lead of 12 points at quarter time. The second term was tougher for both sides to score goals, with Brisbane taking a 16-point-lead into half time. The third quarter finally saw Collingwood get busy in the midfield by winning clearances out of the middle a bit more often and scoring from them. The major concern was that every time the Pies scored goals, the Lions would respond just as swiftly to retain their lead, which was reduced to 12 points at three quarter time. In the final term, Brisbane shut the game down with early goals in the last quarter to put the game beyond Collingwood's reach, before the Woods scored consolation goals to reduce the losing margin to 24 points, which was respectable under the circumstances.

Collingwood only won a handful of statistical categories from the loss to Brisbane. The Magpies were able to win handballs by +11 (141 - 130), +4 for hit-outs (47 - 43), centre clearances were won by +2 (17 - 15), while tackles had a margin of +16 (76 - 60), and Marks Inside 50 had an advantage of +5 (17 - 12). Brisbane won all of the other major statistical categories of the contest, starting with disposals by +10 (345 - 335), kicks were won by +21 (215 - 194), contersted possessions were gained by +9 (135 - 126), +13 for uncontested possessions (204 - 191), intercept possessions had a gap of +5 (59 - 54), with a deficit of -4 for turnovers ( 54 - 58 ). Stoppage clearances were up by +2 (24 - 22), Tackles Inside 50 were won by +4 (9 - 5), marks had an advantage of +23 (96 - 73) with uncontested marks won by +21 (83 - 62), +2 for contested marks (13 - 11), while intercept marks had a margin of +5 (59 - 54), and Inside 50s were claimed by +8 (55 - 47). Both teams won the same number (39 each) of clearances.

Scott Pendlebury (31 disposals @ 68%, 517 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 20 kicks, 11 handballs, 4 marks, 6 tackles, 2 goal assists, 10 score involvements, 12 clearances, 7 centre clearances, 5 stoppage clearances, 9 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was exemplary with his will to win clearances constantly and pumping it forward so his forwards could take marks or compete in marking contests. Pendlebury had the ball on a dime in the third quarter when he read Mason Cox's hit-outs to perfection, while being the key instigator of creating scoring chains elsewhere on the ground.

Tom Mitchell (31 disposals @ 74%, 252 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 21 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 5 kicks, 26 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 centre clearances & 6 Inside 50s) spent most of his time distributing the football by hand to teammates while he was beneath packs or dishing off handpasses to teammates who could run and carry the ball whilst the team were transitioning the ball from the back half.

Josh Daicos (26 disposals @ 69%, 609 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 9 handballs, 6 marks, 1 goal assist, 8 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 4 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) was terrific on the wing once again where he impacted the scoreboard early and contributed to scoring chains on a regular basis. Due to the depleted nature of the team, Daicos got to spend some minutes in the middle and did not look out of place while he was in there.

Jack Crisp (24 disposals @ 79%, 365 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 15 handballs, 2 marks, 9 tackles, 8 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) alternated with Josh Daicos on the wing, while spending considerable minutes in the midfield. Crisp ran and tackled hard, while accumulating possessions with aplomb to create scoring opportunities for his teammates up forward.

Steele Sidebottom (17 disposals @ 59%, 324 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 5 Inside 50s) accumulated his possessions that were rushed and lacked composure under pressure, while his tackling and score involvement numbers were commendable.

Darcy Cameron (17 disposals @ 47%, 216 metres gained, 20 hit-outs, 12 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 6 handballs, 4 marks, 2 contested marks, 5 tackles, 3 score involvements, 5 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 1 goal) had a challenging night where he didn't start well against Oscar McInerney at centre bounces where the Lions won the ball first on a frequent and regular basis in the first half, especially in the opening term when a hot start was required. Cameron was reasonable around the ground where he did most of his good work. Mason Cox as the substitute gave greater service in the middle, which did not bode well for Darcy's prospects going forward. The team needs him to respond with great intent and impact next weekend.

Brayden Maynard (20 disposals @ 90%, 469 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 5 handballs, 6 marks, 5 tackles, 3 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 6 Rebound 50s) had a crack on a tough night, and had the added responsibility of being captain in Darcy Moore's absence.

John Noble (15 disposals @ 93%, 203 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 5 marks, 6 score involvements, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had his impact and influence reduced, but he still intercepted the ball, created ball movement and scoring chains, while Noble kicked an excellent running goal in the opening term in an attempt to lift his side.

Oleg Markov (12 disposals @ 92%, 187 metres gained, 11 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 5 kicks, 7 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 4 score involvements & 2 Rebound 50s) played a conservative brand of footy which was within his limitations, but still contributed to the team's ball movement when the opportunities presented themselves.

Taylor Adams (16 disposals @ 69%, 274 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 6 tackles, 2 goal assists, 9 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 centre clearances & 6 Inside 50s) wasted his opportunities up forward, but created numerous score involvements that resulted in goals or scoring shots, while Adams got a look in the midfield to see if he could impact the contest.

Brody Mihocek (15 disposals @ 40%, 347 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 12 kicks, 3 handballs, 8 marks, 2 contested marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 9 score involvements & 2 goals) was hit and miss at goal throught the entire evening, despite displaying his aerial strength and attributes in marking contests.

Daniel McStay (13 disposals @ 69%, 207 metres gained, 2 hit-outs, 7 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 7 handballs, 4 marks, 2 contested marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 2 Rebound 50s & 2 goals) had an impact on the scoreboard without tearing the game apart in any shape or form.

Jamie Elliott (12 disposals @ 83%, 193 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 3 marks, 2 contested marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 5 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 5 score involvements & 3 goals) made the most of his chances with effective conversion.

Jeremy Howe (9 disposals @ 78%, 102 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 4 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 3 score involvements & 2 goals) had a moderate impact on the game with a couple of nice marks and finished off his work in front of goal.

Collingwood's next game will be against Essendon on August 25 at the MCG. The Magpies have a perfect opportunity to add more pain and misery to the Bombers who copped an absolute belting at the hands of the Giants. However, the Woods have not been in overly great touch recently, but will have one last opportunity to regain confidence and lock up top spot on the AFL ladder before the finals arrive in September.

[23 YIPPEE!!!]

We were always behind the 8 ball v lions
Give us some hope v Essendon
Re capture some form for a quarter or 2
We aren’t there yet
If we can’t get it back then a straight sets exit is possible
Time to get tough fly
Having fun is long gone

[Pies4shaw]

^ "Hope"? How could we have "hope" against Essendon after they did so well against GWS yesterday?

[Mr Miyagi]

I wouldn’t take Essendon lightly, they’ll want to come out breathing fire to prove a point and we’ll be complacent between the ears thinking of finals. I’d much rather we focus on getting our structures right and using this as “practice” than win (and if we do, we should win).

[LaurieHolden]

Thanks JC, always good reading.
Despite the assessment from the match day peanut gallery goldfish, that was one of Pendles best performances this year.

The Brions gelded our link runners

[BazBoy]

[23 YIPPEE!!!]

Agree McRae Carmicheal Allan

[Culprit]

I wouldn’t take Essendon lightly, they’ll want to come out breathing fire to prove a point and we’ll be complacent between the ears thinking of finals. I’d much rather we focus on getting our structures right and using this as “practice” than win (and if we do, we should win).

Watching the game last night the Bombers look spent. Unless they win by basically the same margin that they lost by their season is done. Very hard to get the players up when they are already in mad Monday/Holiday mode. Yes don't take them lightly and in saying that IF we jump them early we should be able to win resting players in the last qtr. Mind you should and doing are two different things and a loss would be a worry.

[lazzadesilva]

[nomadjack]

[quote="LaurieHolden"]The Brions gelded our link runners