Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player discussion

[Presti35]

Invite this lad down to the 'whatever we're calling it now' Centre over the summer. Given his trials and tribulations, surely becoming one of 44 sons under Fly & co. would be the type of environment he might find his passion for the game once again.

A 197cm, 22yo, Key Defender, former top 10 pick, Victorian, with AFL experience does make you think.

His ten games aren't much to look at though; https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... cAsey.html But he is a shut down Presti-type defender after all.

His draft year was 2020, here is his rookieme central bio: https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/fischer-mcasey/

From what I heard, he didnt handle the lock down seasons well and didnt like being away from the family. But you've also got to think of guys like Jonathan Hay and Tom Boyd. AFL level footy isnt for everyone. It's hard work and a hard lifestyle too. Being at Collingwood could be even harder for those that want to escape the pressure.

[Kingsofclutch]

McAsey is an animal, soars and cracks packs, we better be all over him, it's a real need and our window is now.

[inxs88]

Craig Kelly mentioned in October the notion of short-term recruits coming in and making an impact. Any recruitment of Wingard aligns itself to this notion. He is the type of player like Stewart Dew that could be a handy July-September 2024 pickup.

[Brown26]

YES! If he was willing - a 2 year contract to play for 18 months (after he's fit again) could be the spark we need next September. Or maybe he plays in the twos for 18 months, who knows, but if we dont take him we wont know. And he's going to be better for longer than anyone we take at pick 80. Convince him!

- Ben

[WhyPhilWhy?]

I'm led to believe by a reliable source that we had Wingard, but he got cold feet at 4:59. Put a line through his name now.

[Presti35]

I'm led to believe by a reliable source that we had Wingard, but he got cold feet at 4:59. Put a line through his name now.

Does he not want to win??

[Kingsofclutch]

I'm led to believe by a reliable source that we had Wingard, but he got cold feet at 4:59. Put a line through his name now.

Surely it's more calculated than that? unless Hawks offered 2 years he'd be crazy at his age not to take the extra year with a club in the window.

[LaurieHolden]

^ might his ego have got in the way? He'd need to push aside Hill, Elliott, Schultz or McCreey to earn a regular spot on a HFF (Johnson at a push), so perhaps he's thinking there's more guarantee of games at the Hawks as opposed to a mix of senior and VFL at the Pies?
But his 2013 & 2015 AA form is a long time ago and multiple soft tissue injuries ago.
Undoubtedly his best is by far good enough, but one of the above would need to make way and he'd need to have a great run with injury.

As it stands with his injury, he's a 2025 prospect given he'll have a compromised pre-season. You might get away with being underdone against the lower teams, but not against the top 4 when the whips are cracking. He'll be firmly in the twilight of his career by the end of 2025. Suspect we can keep that spot open for someone more suitable.

[Culprit]

^^In my view we've dodged a bullet. Sure he has experience on his side and his best is really good. Age and injury mean we are taking a gamble. That to me says there is not much in the draft on offer at later picks.

[Kingsofclutch]

The sixth player who could receive a night one bid this year is Will Graham, who’s the fourth young gun out of the Suns academy. He’s also expected to be in attendance at the first night of the draft.

Multiple sources have told foxfooty.com.au Collingwood is considering launching a bid on Graham with its first-round selection, which is currently Pick 19.

Quick and powerful, yet also clean and composed with ball in hand, Graham averaged 16.5 disposals and 5.0 marks while going at 79.5 per cent efficiency by foot for the Allies during the national championships playing primarily as a defender with a few midfield stints. He also had VFL exposure, playing four games for the Suns.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/ ... f24bb02c32

[Kingsofclutch]

^ might his ego have got in the way? He'd need to push aside Hill, Elliott, Schultz or McCreey to earn a regular spot on a HFF (Johnson at a push), so perhaps he's thinking there's more guarantee of games at the Hawks as opposed to a mix of senior and VFL at the Pies?
But his 2013 & 2015 AA form is a long time ago and multiple soft tissue injuries ago.
Undoubtedly his best is by far good enough, but one of the above would need to make way and he'd need to have a great run with injury.

Perhaps but he'd only have to look at Ginny and Frampton to see what can happen with a club in the window even if you aren't best 23.

[piedys]

McAsey is an animal, soars and cracks packs, we better be all over him, it's a real need and our window is now.

Along with Kruger, that would be two pack-crash-bash merchants on our list!

I say grab him!

[Take_a_Screamer]

Why Cornes loved Collingwood’s approach to Chad Wingard
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/11/17/ ... d-wingard/

[Take_a_Screamer]

Yes, Collingwood mean business...
Graham Wright is a genius.

“We will be at the front of the queue”: Collingwood ready to move for 2024 off-contract stars
“We are a place where people want to come and play football.”
https://www.zerohanger.com/we-will-be-a ... rs-146442/

[Take_a_Screamer]

Summary Outline of article from The Age
Get more discussion by visiting the link.

A big call to make: Your club’s free agents for 2024
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-b ... 5erim.html
By Marc McGowan. January 1, 2024

Your club’s 2024 free agents. (Key: * Previously delisted, ^ Previously a free agent)

Adelaide (8 )
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James Borlase*, Will Hamill*, Elliott Himmelberg, Mitch Hinge*, Ben Keays*, Rory Sloane^, Brodie Smith^, Taylor Walker^

Brisbane Lions (6)
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Jarrod Berry, Darragh Joyce*, Ryan Lester*, Jarryd Lyons*, Hugh McCluggage, Dayne Zorko^

Carlton (5)
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Matt Cottrell*, David Cuningham^, Sam Durdin*, Caleb Marchbank, Jack Martin*

Collingwood (5)
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Will Hoskin-Elliott, Jeremy Howe^, Oleg Markov*, Scott Pendlebury^, Steele Sidebottom^

Hoskin-Elliott finally reaches free agency in his eighth season as a Magpie and at 30 years of age, after playing his first five years in the AFL as a Giant. He has played no fewer than 18 matches in any of previous seven years in black and white, so opportunity has not been lacking, and it would be a surprise if he departed. Pendlebury (36 in January), Sidebottom (33 in January) and Howe (33) are in the twilight of their careers, but remain key players for Collingwood and will likely go on as long as their form warrants. Markov became a cult hero at his third AFL stop after signing at the start of pre-season and ending the year as a premiership player. Can he back up his career-best campaign in 2024?

Essendon (2)
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Dyson Heppell^, Andrew McGrath

Fremantle (4)
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Bailey Banfield*, Ethan Hughes*, Matt Taberner^, Corey Wagner*

Geelong (13)
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Jed Bews^, Patrick Dangerfield^, Mitch Duncan^, Zach Guthrie, Tom Hawkins^, Jack Henry, Emerson Jeka*, Jake Kolodjashnij^, Mark O’Connor, Brandan Parfitt, Rhys Stanley^, Tyson Stengle*, Zach Tuohy

Gold Coast (8 )
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Ben Ainsworth, Levi Casboult*, Sam Day*, Nick Holman*, Sean Lemmens^, Darcy MacPherson, David Swallow, Jarrod Witts

GWS Giants (6)
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Isaac Cumming, Nick Haynes^, Lachie Keeffe*, Adam Kennedy*, Harry Perryman, Callan Ward^

Hawthorn (6)
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Luke Breust^, Blake Hardwick, Harry Morrison, Conor Nash, Cooper Stephens*, Chad Wingard*

Wingard will spend much of next season recovering from a ruptured achilles tendon. The Hawks put the dual All-Australian forward back on the senior list via the pre-season draft, after delisting him before Collingwood made a shock play for him....

Melbourne (4)
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Marty Hore*, Tom McDonald^, Jake Melksham*, Joel Smith

North Melbourne (5)
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Hugh Greenwood*, Bigoa Nyuon*, Toby Pink*, Liam Shiels*, Cam Zurhaar

Port Adelaide (6)
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Travis Boak^, Charlie Dixon^, Francis Evans*, Todd Marshall, Trent McKenzie*, Quinton Narkle*

Richmond (9)
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Noah Cumberland*, Jack Graham, Dylan Grimes^, Dustin Martin^, Kamdyn McIntosh^, Ben Miller*, Sam Naismith*, Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia

St Kilda (7)
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Josh Battle, Tom Campbell*, Tim Membrey, Seb Ross^, Liam Stocker*, Jimmy Webster^, Mason Wood*

Sydney Swans (6)
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Harry Cunningham^, Ollie Florent, Robbie Fox*, Will Hayward, Lewis Melican^, Sam Reid*

West Coast (6)
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Liam Duggan, Andrew Gaff^, Jamaine Jones*, Josh Rotham, Zane Trew*, Elliot Yeo^

Western Bulldogs (6)
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Lachie Bramble*, Taylor Duryea*, Tim English, Jason Johannisen^, Tom Liberatore^, Lachie McNeil*