Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player discussion

[Pies2016]

As supporters, we’re going to need to be both patient and rational when it comes to the rumours surrounding players swapping clubs or not. Every year, offers to players to leave their parent clubs, are becoming more outlandish and out of touch, when compared to their true worth. Our club can either join that circus and act irresponsibly or just hold their nerve and focus on player acquisitions that don’t derail the salary cap or hamstring our medium term list management.
Whether right or wrong, the club has decided it’s a real chance to snag a flag in 2025, so there will be a player or two added onto our list in the coming weeks. The key is to be responsible with their contracts in the process. The easiest way to put a player out of joint is to have them believe they aren’t getting paid what they are worth, while others are getting overs for doing less.

F W I W, I wouldn’t be getting to bent out of shape just yet because three weeks out from the start of the trade period, nobody has committed to Collingwood yet. There’s a lot of water to go under the bridge before this trade period is done.

[Magpie Russ]

As supporters, we’re going to need to be both patient and rational when it comes to the rumours surrounding players swapping clubs or not.

This is the silly season so I am going to be impatient and irrational!
(and stop making sense)

[Magpie Russ]

If we could this is the player we should be going after: Isaac Cumming is going: Giants star to explore free agency move
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1222647/gre ... move-to-sa

Seems he wants to go to SA.

[warburton lad]

I agree 100%

Isaac Cumming would be a fabulous get for our club (Unrestricted Free Agent)
188cms and 80kgs and only 26 years old- perfect demographic for us.

If we could add Jake Stringer (cheap trade) and Nick Haynes (Unrestricted Free Agent) we would have addressed a few of our list holes and done so on the cheap.

Hell, if they are looking at all chips in for 2025, delisted Matt Taberner might be worth a roll of the dice...

Be brave, magpies.

[jatsad]

^

Cummings is going to SA.
The others, you can chuck away, especially Taberner.
Just no good and too old.
Haynes at 32, enough said.

[Pies2016]

As an aside, Nick Haynes, who was a wonderful footballer 5 years ago, has a unique medical condition that now impacts his ability to ever be at his best again. As an AFL player, he had taken so much anti inflammatory medication, it compromised his stomach and oesophagus linings. He now struggles constantly with ulcers and the perfect dietary preparation required by an elite AFL player. It’s “ public “ knowledge but given his decline in recent years, I’m not sure I’d be looking at Nick as the great white hope to take us forward.

[Presti35]

@piffdog While I agree with the premise, he's similar to Jack Macrae & Jack Bytel.

Hard to compare 29 games (Bytel) to 118 (Kennedy).

Im looking at 2024 Kennedy and see 81 tackles, 16 goals, but only 11 games with over 20 disposals. 4 games were subbed on or off. 81 tackles and 16 goals though... I want to know why Carlton are keen to send him off. He is contracted until the end of 2025... so it cant be a money issue?

https://www.ntnews.com.au/sport/afl/fum ... 8cccf2a3e7
The above article is an interesting read. I'll leave it to you guys, to see what you think.

[Presti35]

If the Cats drop Shannon Neale for Hawkings, I wonder if another club could snag him? What would be better is if they dropped Oli Henry for Hawkins.

[WaggaPie]

"Bam Bam" Kennedy would be a good get. Great guy, mature body who just needs some clarity of role and feel wanted. Was lost with Teague’s riddled filled rants and Voss’ noted lack of connection.
Not being biased just know he’s a honest good lad who would have buy in to flys brand.

[LaurieHolden]

Kennedy ... I want to know why Carlton are keen to send him off. He is contracted until the end of 2025... so it can't be a money issue?

From the dark side ~

‘Kennedy hasn't been pushed out the door.
Apparently, he has been told his time in the midfield (where he would prefer to play) is going to be limited.

Our on-ball group, we never run the ball from stoppage, not since we got rid of Dow. We never run opposition players down, well Walsh does but the rest can't and don't. The best teams in the game close on you or the loose ball so damn quick compares to us it's not funny. Teams just run the ball out of stoppages so much it's embarrassing how we can't run them down.

We have added a bit of pace to the backline and that's it. The on-ball group and the forward line doesn't have much.

Cat's are the best in the business. Hawthorn, Collingwood and Sydney have dominated this competition for decades. Levels above us on all aspects.

We aren't trading Kennedy because we don't rate him. We are trading him because we can offload a big slow mid and it won't affect us and he has trade value.

Kennedy is now painted as a kicking liability, and we are fine with him going

We all agree it’s not working hence the change with Kennedy... not saying that’s gonna make the mix great or even if Carlton wanted to do it but Hewitt is a better player than Kennedy, every day of the week

[qldmagpie67]

Kennedy is an interesting prospect
He would come cheap and is a in and under type mid with a bigger body
Would he be good back up if Mitchell doesn’t come good or suffers another injury ?
Some guys thrive on a change of environment could he be one ?

[Presti35]

Yeah, I'm keen on Kennedy and also Perryman. Aged 27 and 25.

I'm assuming we're not in the race for Houston, and Peatling is staying at GWS? Are we still going to look at Hobbs?

[Presti35]

After listening to the first 8 minutes of Gettable, a few players were mentioned. Like every media outlet though its all speculation and guessing. So, Jack Macrae has nominated the Saints. I wonder, would this affect Fin at all? Will he want to join his brother? Did they grow up Saints fans? Is another club interested, or are we persisting with him?

I know this one doesn't exactly help our veteran quandary. But Todd Goldstein. Essendon may let him go after 1 season. Apparently, we had talks with him last year, but he just decided on the Bombers. Would we entertain him as a 1-year rookie selection? Giving him an opportunity to get more into coaching, but being available to play if there were any injuries to our main guys? We did this with Ben Hudson a few years back now. I know we have Steene, Smit and Eyre coming through. Just a thought.

[LaurieHolden]

@Presti35 Perhaps if Goldstein possesses coaching attributes to go with his experience, it may well be worth putting a rookie contract in front of him, if he was willing to play 1st ruck in the Magoo's and assist with the development of Steene & Smit. Might be a workable solution to get around a coaching soft cap.
Would he be the best available to do that? Someone else would no doubt have a better view of available ruck stocks / role players than I do.
If Cameron was to sustain any LT injury, it'd then prove great insurance if Cox wasn't seen as a viable LT ruck replacement. Steene & Smit are a long way off competing against the comp's best rucks.

[LaurieHolden]

According to Gettable, we're still up to our guts in Houston.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7a9SzK ... 1f21f748f7

They suggest it certainly involves getting pick#12 out of GCS for John Noble.
Port is still interested in Joe Richards.
Peatling has 6 Clubs chasing his signature, including us.
We've come hard late for Perryman.

No doubt this trade period will be complicated, and we'll need to cross the streams. I've no idea, but I'll play list manager for a moment ~
I suspect Port who have chased Lukosius for 4 years might need to get us involved in order to satisfy the GCS.
So here goes ~

Collingwood: trade Richards to Port for pick#37 (483 points) >
Collingwood: trade Future 1st & pick#33 (563 points) to Port (if it was this year, it would be 1395+563 = equivalent 1958 points = top 10 points value) >
Collingwood: trade Noble to Suns + pick #37 (483 points - received from Port) >
Suns: trade pick #12 (1268 points) to Collingwood >
Suns: trade Lukosius to Port >
Suns: receive Port pick #33 (563 points) + Port pick #55 (207 points) + Noble >
Port: receive Lukosius + Richards + Collingwood Future 1st >
Port: trade Houston to Collingwood >
Collingwood: receive Houston + Suns pick #12.

Everyone gets their man, and no-one is left shortchanged in draft currency. Simples...