Post Match. Saints punish Pies . All comments.

[The Average Tourist]

Well most of older players have plenty of brownie points and in the horrors but Markov gets a spell hopefully Ed Allan stands up today no point bringing WHE back let him have a couple in the Magoo's. Or if Ed does not dominate today then Noble comes if Noble plays a Noble run game today then he comes back.

But Crispy becomes our sub next week and whilst he got a couple at the end Bobby needs to lift but .

Howe is recovering from an old mans injury a calf, so maybe we play him at full forward for a couple of weeks let Reef play third tall. Howie with his leap will certainly give us something to kick to

It will give us a different look

[shawthing]

Howe did not run off his line

No but he cribbed at least 10 metres by running outside the boundary line. You can't do that. What if someone had tackled him outside the line? Brainless stuff.

As for the other boundary line issue, Higgins was further out than Wayne Harmes when he kicked that goal.

[Gerry Cooper]

Howe did not run off his line

He did by slightly deviating to the left in his approach but not enough to gain any significant advantage to the kick. It was a witlessly technical decision by an overly officious umpire.

However I'm not surprised by that given Ross Lyon's favorite umpire was on the field.
(Ask Fremantle fans what they think about Fisher's umpiring)

[Piesnchess]

Rest and manage our older guys, and play more kids, kids can re juvenate a team, liven it up, McCrae, McInnes, Harry deMattia when hes fit an firing, and a few more too.

[Piesnchess]

Here's a little fact to dwell on when everything seems like shit after our 0-3 start.

Every one of the other 17 clubs could only dream to have experienced the joy of the last 2 seasons we did as Pies fans. It was elation after elation, culminating in the ultimate joy in late September.

Cycles come and go and yes, we have started badly. But we are actually not that far off. We are still fighting out games. Our 3rd quarters though are a mess!

Have faith Pies fans, we can turn this around! We've been spoiled with success over the last 2 years and now it's time to hang tough.

spot on.
last night was a real WTF.
have other teams worked us out and are using the tactics against us with younger, fitter players?
the kids including Naicos floundered a bit.
the older guys looked knackered and shell shocked.
in my facebook feed i was getting ready for round one this weekend a couple of years ago. we had to start the season early, as did brisbane, play interstate, as did brisbane, and now 3 games with 6 day breaks, and back to interstate. WTAF!!
this is the way the AFL treats its cash cow? 22k in sydney, we would have filled the G!
as for last night, no we didnt play well. But... if jordy was paid for holding, there is a goal, if Moore doesnt do his whoopsie, its 1 point, and you cannot tell me that 15 extra free kicks dont equate to more than a point. yes, it probably deserved to be lopsided, but not like that.
this is not the first time playing in a "hero" game for another club has cost us the game due to bias.
****, **** all. no more.
they treat us like crap.
it truly is time for US AGAINST THEM!

side by side xx

Well said T P, yep. im so over us being the Leagues **** cow, so over it now. As somene said to me on another Magpies site, " mate, smell the coffee, the AFL is totally corrupt, totally, get used too it." He has a point.

[23 YIPPEE!!!]

100% saying for a long time now that we must and must bring in the kids and we have plenty.
If not its will 1990s all over again.
Re juvenate is the key from now.
Use the older players as the back up from now.
And finally have a vision and look to the future.

[LaurieHolden]

Positives ~
Team
Won 1st half by 8
Tackles 54
Players ~
Reef McInnes 3 goals 76% TOG (AF 64 SC 74)
Lipinski 2 goals (AF 91 SC 100)
Josh Daicos 29 disposals, 6 I50, 4 R50, 719 meters gained (AF 103 SC 90)
Maynard 20 effective disposals, 719 meters gained 86.7%, disposal efficiency.
Billy Frampton 13 effective disposals, 83.3% disposal efficiency
Tom Mitchell 8 tackles
Scott Pendlebury 5 tackles
Mason Cox 5 tackles
Brody Mihocek 5 tackles
Beau McCreery 5 tackles

Negatives ~
Clangers 78 (Jamie Elliott 8, Tom Mitchell 7)
Inside 50s 42
% In50s Goal 28.6%
Frees Against 30
Tackles Inside 50 1

Total Players By Games
St Kilda Games Collingwood
7 Less than 50 3
4 50 to 99 8
7 100 to 149 3
3 150 to 200 5
2 200 or more 4
Average games
97.1 Games 133.7

(TOG = Time on Ground, AF = AFL Fantasy, SC = Supercoach, R50 Rebound 50, I50 Inside 50)

[CPtechno12]

What about the touch with those fumbles. What's that due to?
Quote:
"Yeah, it's there to be seen. We do hours of fundamental work. It's actually the stable part of our training, it's the fundamentals. I'd be surprised if others do as much as we do. There's a level of 'right, who's fumbling more and not handling the ball well?' There's levels of that we're questioning ourselves around. It's hard to answer. We've got some of our best player and some of the most decorated players you've seen in the game that are somewhat...'we're all in this'".

I think it's clear who you're talking about with the fumbles. Are they talking to you about it? Do they know why it's happening?
Quote:
"No, I haven't had a deeper conversation around that because tonight it was probably more obvious than recent weeks. It's been a consistent theme for us. This is reality of what we've got in our walls. We've got guys that just turn up to work. I'd love you guys to come and see it. I tell you every week, we prepare really well. There's a level right now of maybe 'we've got to get a run on the board here' and there's added layers to that so maybe that could be real. We've got 7 days. We've got to get ourselves right and pick ourselves up and it's time to get busy. Time to get busy".

Anyone know which player(s) being referred to?

[perthmagpie]

I can only think of a batting form analogy. Scored lots of 50s and centuries in the last two years. This year the bowlers are coming for us fired up and we are mishitting, playing and missing and never building an innings. Our batting average is 65.

But so far we have scored in three tests: 9 &16, 2 & 20, 4 & 28. The touch and form is missing. We watch replays of our dismissals and can identify the technique problems. But it’s not come together yet. It’s probably going to take a dour, grimding innings at a run rate of two an over to stay in the match for longer until a few fours and a couple sixes see the form all comes flooding back. It will happen. It needs to be soon. Skill and talent do not just disappear overnight. This is not fitness or preparation. This is a mental hurdle that is only overcome by working on technique and thinking positive.

[Big Fella]

Way too early to be very negative.

[RudeBoy]

Well most of older players have plenty of brownie points and in the horrors but Markov gets a spell hopefully Ed Allan stands up today no point bringing WHE back let him have a couple in the Magoo's. Or if Ed does not dominate today then Noble comes if Noble plays a Noble run game today then he comes back.

But Crispy becomes our sub next week and whilst he got a couple at the end Bobby needs to lift but .

Howe is recovering from an old mans injury a calf, so maybe we play him at full forward for a couple of weeks let Reef play third tall. Howie with his leap will certainly give us something to kick to

It will give us a different look

I'm pretty sure Harrison, who was an emergency, is higher in the pecking order than Allan, who needs to string a few weeks of good form together before getting promoted imo.

[stui magpie]

I can only think of a batting form analogy. Scored lots of 50s and centuries in the last two years. This year the bowlers are coming for us fired up and we are mishitting, playing and missing and never building an innings. Our batting average is 65.

But so far we have scored in three tests: 9 &16, 2 & 20, 4 & 28. The touch and form is missing. We watch replays of our dismissals and can identify the technique problems. But it’s not come together yet. It’s probably going to take a dour, grimding innings at a run rate of two an over to stay in the match for longer until a few fours and a couple sixes see the form all comes flooding back. It will happen. It needs to be soon. Skill and talent do not just disappear overnight. This is not fitness or preparation. This is a mental hurdle that is only overcome by working on technique and thinking positive.

I read Fly also used a cricket anaolgy.

He said in the first match we were tentative outside and got nicked out.
In the second we tried to hit every ball for 6
Last night we played better but made basic mistakes

[Gerry Cooper]

Here's a little fact to dwell on when everything seems like shit after our 0-3 start.

Every one of the other 17 clubs could only dream to have experienced the joy of the last 2 seasons we did as Pies fans. It was elation after elation, culminating in the ultimate joy in late September.

Cycles come and go and yes, we have started badly. But we are actually not that far off. We are still fighting out games. Our 3rd quarters though are a mess!

Have faith Pies fans, we can turn this around! We've been spoiled with success over the last 2 years and now it's time to hang tough.

spot on.
last night was a real WTF.
have other teams worked us out and are using the tactics against us with younger, fitter players?
the kids including Naicos floundered a bit.
the older guys looked knackered and shell shocked.
in my facebook feed i was getting ready for round one this weekend a couple of years ago. we had to start the season early, as did brisbane, play interstate, as did brisbane, and now 3 games with 6 day breaks, and back to interstate. WTAF!!
this is the way the AFL treats its cash cow? 22k in sydney, we would have filled the G!
as for last night, no we didnt play well. But... if jordy was paid for holding, there is a goal, if Moore doesnt do his whoopsie, its 1 point, and you cannot tell me that 15 extra free kicks dont equate to more than a point. yes, it probably deserved to be lopsided, but not like that.
this is not the first time playing in a "hero" game for another club has cost us the game due to bias.
****, **** all. no more.
they treat us like crap.
it truly is time for US AGAINST THEM!

side by side xx

Well said T P, yep. im so over us being the Leagues **** cow, so over it now. As somene said to me on another Magpies site, " mate, smell the coffee, the AFL is totally corrupt, totally, get used too it." He has a point.

Collingwood is part of the AFL. Therefore Collingwood is totally corrupt. Do you agree?

[Mr Miyagi]

On the positive side no injuries for the third week in a row!

[What'sinaname]

We have almost no injuries. Just wait until the injuries start. Yikes!!