Gun laws in USA??

[David]

I don't know whether the elastic band thing is true or false, but it's not exactly a raving endorsement of the status quo that nearly anyone with the motivation can so easily do a Stephen Paddock and knock off a few dozen from a balcony in record time, is it? Not sure it even matters how many "good guys with a gun" you have in that situation.

[stui magpie]

Even if that rubber band thing does work, it';s crude an inaccurate. The only use is to make a semi auto rifle fire rapid fire like a full auto.

If you're firing into a crowd you don't need that shit if you're an anywhere decent shot. You just keep pulling the trigger. Anyone who can handle the kickback of a high powered rifle could get off an easy 3 shots per second, aimed.

machine guns are useful for strafing which makes them good in close combat where you don't have time to aim. They have no place outside the military or Police.

[Skids]

An interesting thing I learnt about guns - New Zealand has more guns(26.3 per 100 person) per capita than we (14.5) do .... obviously, that's 'registered' guns, which is a pretty poor reflection on reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated ... by_country

Of the more than one billion firearms in the world, American citizens hold 393 million, for a population of roughly 326 million. According to the report, that is a gun ownership of 121 firearms per 100 civilians. The next highest rates are 53 in Yemen, 39 in Montenegro and Serbia, and 35 in Canada.

And people think 'gun laws'can work to stop lunatics killing people

The same fools who think that Australia can have any significant impact on global CO2 emissions ... geez, what a &^*%$^&% circus

[David]

[Wokko]

Another one made from a metal coat hangar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFyoDYDPFLU

[swoop42]

Banning bump stocks is like a player celebrating a goal in the final minute that only sees the margin reduced to under 5 goals.

Better than nothing but the game is lost.

[think positive]

How many died in vegas? How many of those would have had time to get away?

Baby steps, if he gets away with this he can take a bigger step next

You have to have hope or your already done

[stui magpie]

Another one made from a metal coat hangar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFyoDYDPFLU

Without actually looking at how the action works, i'm guessing it's because both examples are military style firearms originally designed to be fully auto and were basically modified in the factory to make them semi auto for domestic sale.

The old semi auto's I played with in the 80's were designed as semi auto in the first place, so those tricks wouldn't work.

The only place for military weapons is in the military or Police special forces groups.

[Pies4shaw]

Another white Nazi on the loose with an NRA-endorsed weapon:

The shooter at the synagogue was a "white adult male": https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ay-reports

[watt price tully]

Another white Nazi on the loose with an NRA-endorsed weapon:

The shooter at the synagogue was a "white adult male": https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ay-reports

Another white right-wing male does it again. Hero, he murders an 80 yr old and wounds others but doen't kill himself: inspired by other right wing male murderers of the Chistchurch and Pittburgh terrorists.

What is the common thread amongst the perpetrators?

So far:

1. Male,
2. Right wing,
3. White.

[stui magpie]

^

So the Islamic terrorists are somehow better because both male and females murder people and kill themselves?

I can play this game too. 562 people killed and 1179 attacks in the past 30 days and guess what all the perpetrators have in common?

Islam.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/atta ... ?Yr=Last30

[Pies4shaw]

How is that even a question?

[stui magpie]

^

I'm just trying to understand what WPT's point is, firstly with the gibe about the murderer not killing himself and the demographics.

It's clear and irrefutable that most violence is perpetrated by men. Also mostly to other men

In the USA, the majority of homicides are committed by Black Americans (52% when they make up 13% of the population) and they are also disproportionately the victims of Homicide.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck ... mmit-crime

There's also the sheer number of people killed in the name of Islam, mainly again by men, most of whom aren't white and again, often against other Muslims.

The point?

[watt price tully]

Increase in anti-semitic acts / behaviors in the US:

“... anti-semites and white supremacists are feeling more emboldened...”

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ca ... story.html

Thank you Mr Trump for encouraging the climate for this to occur, that us where white right supremacists feel emboldened.

Exhibit one: Charlottesville,
Exhibit two: The manner in which he & his campaign went about demonizing minority groups
Exhibit three: Failure to quickly and unequivocally distance and separate himself from the Neo-nazi support he attracts

[Wokko]

Donald Trump is unashamedly pro Jewish and pro Israel as are most white republicans. The left and anti-Trump right are the anti Semites. Reach harder.