watt price tully wrote:MJ23 wrote:Wokko wrote:https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1059299507538665472?s=19
Uh huh
Its not hard to understand for some.
I dont think the 440 real people killed in Chicago just this year would see themselves as a misdirection as WPF will have you beleive when talking about Gun violence in a gun violence topic discussion. These were women, blacks, Jews......
Im sure not too many of the perpetrators liked their victims.
Talking about misdirection, WPF will continually compare the right of centre Americans with the far right and mass murders. I struggle to understand an argument that constantly sees extremism in one side of the political spectrum yet cant, or wont admit the extremism sits on both sides and is condemned by both sides. Will argue the leader of one political party's constant rhetoric is cause for violence yet when faced with numerous examples of rhetoric from the other side and incidents of violence........crickets.
What isnt a surprise though is the need to attack the the other side personally when the argument isn't working out how you thought it would. Fairly common place on the left.
Good lord, so many errors and so little time:
1. WPF? Which 7 year old did you steal that from?
2. Have I once said that Trump caused the racist murders by a white right wing male? No. Misattribution again.
3. Not once have I stated that there aren't extemists on the left a false claim by you indeed it's a lie. Straw man argument, false claim, misrepresentation and a porky pie by you. You just thought that would be good to make up and throw in. Sorry you've been caught out.
4. You continue to use killings in Chicago per se and compare this with murderous misogyny and racism perpetrated by nutter white wing males. There is no comparison to my specific question:
Why is it that murderous, misogynist and racist white right wing nutter males are attracted to the right wing? To be clear I am asking why it is that these types area attracted to right wing ways of seeing the world.
Now I'm not so binary as to say that there are not racists and misogynists on the left but they don't go into synagogues and shoot people, they don't go into churches and shoot people dead and they don't kill gays in discos or shoot women in a yoga studio as far as I know: This seems to be the exclusive domain of right wing, white, racist, mysogynist and homophpobic nutter males who obviously are attracted to the right. In the words of professor Julius Sumner Miller "why is it so"
Please refrain from misattribution, misrepresentation and misdirection.
You are the embodiment of Misattribution, misrepresetation and misdirection. And again, the personal attack. Pathetic. Condescending and pathetic.
1. Yes - you explicitly blamed Trump for a synagogues shooting. I dont care what language you think you used - you blamed him. You said its a no-brainer just to what degree to apportion the blame.
2. Yes you haven't stated there are not extremists on the left - what Ive said was you haven't acknowledged that they are there at all when you've constantly attacked the right. Not the far right...the right of centre and Trump who is not far rigt.
3. I use Chicago consistently for a reason that I knew your narrow thinking wouldn't pick up on for a few reasons. Chicago murders and gun violence is one of the worst citys in the country and got worse under Obama, is Democrat run and has purportedly the toughest gun laws in the US. Hasn't much helped because the criminals have all the guns !
Im not sure every Nutter is attracted to extreme right wing but extreme right wing are all nutters. Antifa are full of nutters and they are left. Guarantee nobody in a gang in Chicago is voting republican.
In a topic on gun violence, you go straight to mass shooting to suit your racist argument on politics. One murder at a time even when there are 440 of them in less than a year that you dont want to talk about in a US gun topic discussion.
105 "mass or spree shootings" since 1982 killing 860 people. (not two years of shooting deaths in what city do you think?)
60 committed by white males
45 completed by other races
89 - had mental health issues. Not something we seem to worry about or assign blame to.
4 only committed by females. So why do you call for "white" males to be banned and not all males ?
Lets have a look at just some attacks by the left that I could be bothered looking up.
Ft.Hood shooter Nidal Hasan - Democrat, and muslim
Adam Lanza - Liberal, hated Christians
Columbine High School freaks - too young to vote but came from very liberal families
Virginia Tech shooter, Seung-Hui Cho - liberal freak
Virginia Tech decapitater - liberal
Colorado Theater shooter James Holmes - liberal
Live on air Roanoke VA TV station shooter Vester Lee Flanagan - liberal
Navy shipyard shooter Aaron Alexis - liberal
Arizona Gabby Giffords shooter Jared Loughner - Liberal, hated Bush
The DC snipers back in 2003 - Liberals
Chattanooga TN Marine Recruiting center shooter - Muslim democrat
Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber) - Leftist
Some other examples of the violent left?...
Lee Harvy Oswald (JFK) - Marxist (hard core lefty)
John Hinkley (Reagan) - Democrat
John Wilkes Booth (Lincoln) - Democrat
Lynette 'squeaky' Fromme (Gerd Ford attempt) - Liberal
Sir Han Sir Han (RFK) - Liberal
Bill Ayers - US domestic terrorist - Liberal
Bernadine Dohrn - US domestic terrorist - Liberal
Occupy Wall Street - over 8,000 arrests, 3 murders, 2 arson, 10 plus reported rapes - a hardcore leftist movement
KKK- was spawn from democrats
Eradication of Jews 1940's (holocaust) - Hitler a member of the National Socialist Workers Party aka a hardcore leftist.
Planned parenthood - contentious I know but do some research on Margaret Sanger founder. I looked this up after Cadice Owens pointed it out.
Slavery - Democrats were proponents.
What about voting record?
13th amendment - abolish slavery.
%100 Republican support
%23 Dem support - actually had a good year for them
14th amendment - citizenship to freed slaves and now used by illegals.
%100 Republican support
%0 Dem support
15th amendment - right to vote for all
%100 repuplican support
%0 Dem support
Yet with all that I dont lay blame on the left for these nutters. Left of centre as opposed to far left I can find common ground. Conservatives usually can.
Please refrain from miss-attribution, misrepresentation and misdirection.
( just seemed ok to end with that as I guess it means what, Im right and your not ?)