yepDavid wrote:The gun lobby seems to love these stories most of all, forgetting that the whole idea of little kids (who, as Dylan Moran put it so beautifully, are about on par intellectually with very drunk adults) wielding loaded guns is batshit insane.Wokko wrote:http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/elevenyearold-boy-makes-home-invader-cry-like-a-baby/news-story/1b6262822090a184a1777fd4159bc278
So, one ten-year-old foils a home invasion (ensuring that one less TV ends up on the black market), another two shoot their siblings in the head after an argument and another half a dozen accidentally kill themselves. Kids and guns: great combination.
Gun laws in USA??
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He's a big crude but some good points, Aussie Jim Jeffries
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LOL. "Even when a man is naked, a woman wants to know he has a job"think positive wrote:He's a big crude but some good points, Aussie Jim Jeffries
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I knew you'd like that!stui magpie wrote:LOL. "Even when a man is naked, a woman wants to know he has a job"think positive wrote:He's a big crude but some good points, Aussie Jim Jeffries
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Watch Freedumb for the most honest description of the competitive nature of parents of toddlers! So bloody funny, I woke hubby up laughing!!
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Some links to his disturbed behaviour... nut job!
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But would stricter gun laws really have any effect?
For instance, many of the states with the lowest crime rates, including homicide rates, also have some of the fewest limits on gun ownership. In fact, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a group that supports enhancing gun-control laws, gave in its recent gun-control report card "F" grades (for having lax gun laws) to five of the six states that have the lowest homicide rates. If having fewer gun restrictions causes more violent crime, why would many states with the lowest homicide rates also have relatively few gun-control laws?
The data also show there is no connection to higher gun ownership rates and greater amounts of crime. There are only six states in which 50 percent of the households own firearms: Alaska, Arkansas, Idaho, Montana, West Virginia and Wyoming. If gun-control supporters are correct about the dangers of firearms, these states should have significantly higher crime rates, but the opposite is true here as well. Data provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show four of those six states ranked in the top half of all states for having the lowest homicide rates. Two of the states, Idaho and Wyoming, ranked in the top six.
Further, many cities with very low legal gun ownership rates and stringent gun-control laws, such as Chicago, have extremely high gun-related murder rates.
https://www.newsday.com/opinion/comment ... 1.14453352
For instance, many of the states with the lowest crime rates, including homicide rates, also have some of the fewest limits on gun ownership. In fact, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a group that supports enhancing gun-control laws, gave in its recent gun-control report card "F" grades (for having lax gun laws) to five of the six states that have the lowest homicide rates. If having fewer gun restrictions causes more violent crime, why would many states with the lowest homicide rates also have relatively few gun-control laws?
The data also show there is no connection to higher gun ownership rates and greater amounts of crime. There are only six states in which 50 percent of the households own firearms: Alaska, Arkansas, Idaho, Montana, West Virginia and Wyoming. If gun-control supporters are correct about the dangers of firearms, these states should have significantly higher crime rates, but the opposite is true here as well. Data provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show four of those six states ranked in the top half of all states for having the lowest homicide rates. Two of the states, Idaho and Wyoming, ranked in the top six.
Further, many cities with very low legal gun ownership rates and stringent gun-control laws, such as Chicago, have extremely high gun-related murder rates.
https://www.newsday.com/opinion/comment ... 1.14453352
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There's no central registry so they can only guess at the level of gun ownership, and those states that have the strictest gun laws happen to all be land locked and surrounded by states with slack ones.Skids wrote:But would stricter gun laws really have any effect?
For instance, many of the states with the lowest crime rates, including homicide rates, also have some of the fewest limits on gun ownership. In fact, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a group that supports enhancing gun-control laws, gave in its recent gun-control report card "F" grades (for having lax gun laws) to five of the six states that have the lowest homicide rates. If having fewer gun restrictions causes more violent crime, why would many states with the lowest homicide rates also have relatively few gun-control laws?
The data also show there is no connection to higher gun ownership rates and greater amounts of crime. There are only six states in which 50 percent of the households own firearms: Alaska, Arkansas, Idaho, Montana, West Virginia and Wyoming. If gun-control supporters are correct about the dangers of firearms, these states should have significantly higher crime rates, but the opposite is true here as well. Data provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show four of those six states ranked in the top half of all states for having the lowest homicide rates. Two of the states, Idaho and Wyoming, ranked in the top six.
Further, many cities with very low legal gun ownership rates and stringent gun-control laws, such as Chicago, have extremely high gun-related murder rates.
https://www.newsday.com/opinion/comment ... 1.14453352
It's like being able to drive to Canberra from NSW back in the day to buy fireworks. too easy.
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Imagine if, after Port Arthur, rather than arranging the gun buy-back, the government had instead opened the floodgates to gun purchasing, allowed them to be sold in supermarkets, permitted concealed carry in pubs and encouraged everyone to have their own personal machine gun in their house. We really missed an opportunity to keep ourselves safe there.
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