Howe didn't play in all of these games so that would be some accomplishment to score votes when you don't play.WarrenerraW wrote:If it ain't Howe then it should be. He's AA at the moment.
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Name who run 3rd 4th 5th in the last 4 Melbourne cups !!Pies4shaw wrote:Another quiz question:
Scott Pendlebury has won 4 of the last 5 Copeland Trophies. Apart from him, only 1 Collingwood player has finished top 5 in the Copeland Trophy in the last 5 years, finishing 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 5th and 3rd. Name him.
Who run 3rd 4th 5th in the AFL those same years ??
It's a meaningless thing people only remember the winners
Since 2007 only 3 players have won a Copeland medal Pendles Swanny & who else ? It should be easy to remember people always remember a winner
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Beams only won it once. Same could happen this year with Sidebottom.qldmagpie67 wrote:Name who run 3rd 4th 5th in the last 4 Melbourne cups !!Pies4shaw wrote:Another quiz question:
Scott Pendlebury has won 4 of the last 5 Copeland Trophies. Apart from him, only 1 Collingwood player has finished top 5 in the Copeland Trophy in the last 5 years, finishing 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 5th and 3rd. Name him.
Who run 3rd 4th 5th in the AFL those same years ??
It's a meaningless thing people only remember the winners
Since 2007 only 3 players have won a Copeland medal Pendles Swanny & who else ? It should be easy to remember people always remember a winner
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Pendles would be a short priced favourite only missing the rest of the season would change that. If he's ruled out then Adams Howe Trelaor Sidey and perhaps Grundy would be in with a chance but likely Adams and Howe next in line. If Elliott hadn't missed some weeks he would have been in the hunt as well.BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:Beams only won it once. Same could happen this year with Sidebottom.qldmagpie67 wrote:Name who run 3rd 4th 5th in the last 4 Melbourne cups !!Pies4shaw wrote:Another quiz question:
Scott Pendlebury has won 4 of the last 5 Copeland Trophies. Apart from him, only 1 Collingwood player has finished top 5 in the Copeland Trophy in the last 5 years, finishing 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 5th and 3rd. Name him.
Who run 3rd 4th 5th in the AFL those same years ??
It's a meaningless thing people only remember the winners
Since 2007 only 3 players have won a Copeland medal Pendles Swanny & who else ? It should be easy to remember people always remember a winner
Sidey's rounds 2-10 were only average since the bye he's been good but coming from a long long way back.
But Pendles is likely to miss 1 possibly 2 weeks so he will win his 6th and take his place in history next to the coach
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Interesting how perception gets in the way of facts.
Since the bye Sidey has probably been our most consistent player playing mostly quit good games. Prior to the bye in the first 10 weeks he polled votes in 4 games (including rounds 9 & 10) but polled only once from round 2 to 8 so in 7 rounds he polled once that's another side of his consistency on show there.
Since the Buckley era began from the bye until end of the season in 5years and 47 games he polled a total of 6 Brownlow votes and was never named best on ground again a tremendous run of consistently average to poor performances
He's in the prime of his career right now and should be showing the type of performances we have seen the past few weeks each and every week. Alas that's not the case his form along with the teams in general is up and down.
Pendles has won 5 copelands during the Buckley era and went 110 games of scoring more than 90 super coach points each and every week. That's 5 consecutive seasons of outstanding consistency unparalleled by any player
(Just for the record Sidey's consecutive game streak is 7)
When he wins a Copeland or can get double digits in Brownlow voting or win all Australian honours or figure in the voting in th coaches awards or AFLPA MVP voting then and only then can he lay any sort of claims to being anything close to resembling consistently good player. Until such time he will be just another run of the mill player who occasionally plays a above average game
Since the bye Sidey has probably been our most consistent player playing mostly quit good games. Prior to the bye in the first 10 weeks he polled votes in 4 games (including rounds 9 & 10) but polled only once from round 2 to 8 so in 7 rounds he polled once that's another side of his consistency on show there.
Since the Buckley era began from the bye until end of the season in 5years and 47 games he polled a total of 6 Brownlow votes and was never named best on ground again a tremendous run of consistently average to poor performances
He's in the prime of his career right now and should be showing the type of performances we have seen the past few weeks each and every week. Alas that's not the case his form along with the teams in general is up and down.
Pendles has won 5 copelands during the Buckley era and went 110 games of scoring more than 90 super coach points each and every week. That's 5 consecutive seasons of outstanding consistency unparalleled by any player
(Just for the record Sidey's consecutive game streak is 7)
When he wins a Copeland or can get double digits in Brownlow voting or win all Australian honours or figure in the voting in th coaches awards or AFLPA MVP voting then and only then can he lay any sort of claims to being anything close to resembling consistently good player. Until such time he will be just another run of the mill player who occasionally plays a above average game
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It's worth me observing, very politely at this point (since you are an old mate, Qld), that Paul Williams managed 306 AFL games, yet, in his 189 at Collingwood (more than Sidebottom will have played at the end of this year), he managed only a runner up and three thirds in the Copeland.
Greening came third twice. So has Sidey. QED.
Greening came third twice. So has Sidey. QED.
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P4S can you update me on how many coaches votes Sidey received yesterday please.
Those 5 touches in the second half (with 1 Clanger, 2 tackles, 0 1%ers, 0 score involvements, 0 inside 50's, 2 frees for 1 against, 0 rebound 50's, 1 clearance)
When the game was on the line to be won he went missing in a huge way.
Thankfully the captain in waiting in Adams the next super star of our side in JDG and the next vice captain in Grundy stepped up and led from the front in what can only be described as truely inspirational leaders performances
Mods can we please change this thread heading to its true accurate heading
Unparalleled overrated
Those 5 touches in the second half (with 1 Clanger, 2 tackles, 0 1%ers, 0 score involvements, 0 inside 50's, 2 frees for 1 against, 0 rebound 50's, 1 clearance)
When the game was on the line to be won he went missing in a huge way.
Thankfully the captain in waiting in Adams the next super star of our side in JDG and the next vice captain in Grundy stepped up and led from the front in what can only be described as truely inspirational leaders performances
Mods can we please change this thread heading to its true accurate heading
Unparalleled overrated
He carried the team on his back as an inside mid in the first half. He didn't warrant coaches votes, though, given the effort of others. Captained the side brilliantly, though, and stopped an Eagles run in its tracks with a Captain's Tackle late in the last. Did you see the way the players got around him when the team kicked the sealer? He's not my long-term choice for captain but I guess he'll lead every time Pendles is missing - at least until Tommy is ready to drive them to glory.
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Love your positive spin mate. Actually to be honest that tackle and Goldie's tackle on Petrie both were brilliant and turned momentum our way.Pies4shaw wrote:He carried the team on his back as an inside mid in the first half. He didn't warrant coaches votes, though, given the effort of others. Captained the side brilliantly, though, and stopped an Eagles run in its tracks with a Captain's Tackle late in the last. Did you see the way the players got around him when the team kicked the sealer? He's not my long-term choice for captain but I guess he'll lead every time Pendles is missing - at least until Tommy is ready to drive them to glory.
Mate I was really impressed with Faz kicking that sealing goal and it was great to see the acting captain be first there to embrace him showed leadership
I thought Adams really showed leadership qualities and played his best game for a while
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On a serious note now I think you will find from what I've been able to source the captaincy role is shared between Sidey and Adams with Sidey taking the toss last week. Checking back to the beginning of the season Buckely said the co vice captains would share the role on the field captaincy when Pendles was off or injured. At the press conference last week neither sat in but both took questions from the journo's in the rooms afterwards on behalf of the team which is usually the captains job.Pies4shaw wrote:So, we have 4 more weeks of Sidey's masterful leadership to come. Will they just leave him in the job next year - or will they make him captain/coach?
I would say they are sharing the workload &'responsibility which I don't think is a bad thing to be able to support each other in Pendles absence
On the last part of your post if they make Sidey a non playing captain non coaching coach I think it would ideal for the club
